I know some resellers of the old @home ISP service had terrible
hierarchies will regaurd to support phone calls.  In my opinion if you
aren't talking to somebody that actually had the capability of
increasing CPE or in some other way releasing the MAC of your Ethernet
card in about 20 minutes or so, call no-joy and trade your router in for
an "EL CHEAPO" router like linksys etherfast that allows you to simply
type in whatever MAC you would like the router to emulate.  Then get the
MAC of your card (ipconfig /all or whatever) and tell the router to use
that MAC.  Then the cable modem essentially thinks it's connected
directly to your ethernet card....$0.02.

-t

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Spicer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 11:25 PM
To: Johannes B. Ullrich; s.eVershAde
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Question on broadband IP routers using NAT


* Call your ISP and ask them to increase the number of CPE devices
temporarily to 2. Depending on their DOCSIS modem management software
they may be limiting you to 1 CPE (ethernet device). This is done by the
MAC address of the ethernet device connecting. A DOCSIS configuration
file is sent to the modem during its boot up process and it contains the
# of CPE devices allowed. By them temporarily allowing 2, and you (or
them) resetting the modem ... will allow your router to get an IP
Address via DHCP. After that they can lower you back to one CPE (and
hence 1 ip address from their pool).

After that your EL CHEAPO router will be on their network and the
Internet and it can handle the NAT for your internal network of devices.

Some El Cheap routers allow you to enter any MAC address as the WAN side
towards the cable modem (or DSL modem as the case may be) and basically
allows you to spoof as your PC's MAC address. That would work also in
case your ISP doesn't want to increase the CPE even temporarily.

... as a side note, this is the same proceedure that your ISP would have
to do if, lets say, your PC crashed and burned (became inoperable) and
you bought a new PC with a new Ethernet card that was different than the
one you originally installed when you signed up for your service. They
really shouldn't have a problem  helping you with this. They probably
won't want to support much else though as far as your internal network,
because you don't pay them for that.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Johannes B. Ullrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "s.eVershAde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: Question on broadband IP routers using NAT


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> did you reset the cable modem (unplug it from power for a while)?
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> On Sat, 20 Apr 2002, s.eVershAde wrote:
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> > Hello all ...
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> > I recently purchased an el cheapo ip router -- a LanReady CR-840 -- 
> > and
I'm
> > having trouble getting it to grab a dynamic IP from my cable modem.

> > The modem will assign one to any NIC I've tried, but not the router.

> > I took
it
> > to the office and snapped it on the LAN, and it snagged one no 
> > problem. Tried about everything -- any ideas?
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> > ____________________________
> > "Never underestimate the power
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