No offense, but that is a pretty weak apology. Citing your rights under the US Constitution is professionally irrelevant as the SEGMIN mailing list is international.
Glenn. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 31, 2021, at 6:37 PM, Ken Witherly via SEGMIN > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Thanks Bob. > > I felt I had used a powerful image with respect but regret if nevertheless, > certain individuals felt aggrieved by the use of this imagery; this was not > the intent. > > As Bob also mentions, the American constitution provides us with rights of > freedom of expression which is one of the most important rights I hold as an > American citizen. > > Best/Ken > > From: SEGMIN <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Robert Ellis via > SEGMIN > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 5:26 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Robert Ellis <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SEGMIN] [External] Final Cut > > I doubt that Ken meant to offend anyone. I will defend Ken having know him > for about 40 years and have never seen a slight indication of disrespect for > various cultural backgrounds. We are fortunate to live in a country of free > speech (for the moment) and everyone from diverse backgrounds need to just > lighten up and get a grip. If you are a citizen of the US you are an > American. If your not an American please respect our free speech while your > here. I'm from Texas and pride of my heritage counters all intended and > unintentional jokes about Texans, of which there are many and undoubtedly > there now will be more! Bring them on babies. > > Robert Ellis > Ellis Geophysical Consulting Inc. > 9528 Xanthos Lane > Reno, Nevada 89521 USA > Skype: BobEllisEGC > If email returned try: [email protected] > > > On Sunday, January 31, 2021, 04:12:37 PM PST, Yaoguo Li via SEGMIN > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Ken, > > Just to follow up on our email exchange, and to provide a context for my > previous email: > > My reaction has nothing to do with culture or background. It has to do with > basic human respect. I don’t think you would use an image of a group of gulag > prisoners of Soviet era, or a Rwanda genocide scene, for such a “fun” > posting, so I wonder why you would use this image in such a way? > > These are not your proverbial "sacred cows” as you refer to them. What an > insult, although I am sure you didn’t mean it! You are not pushing the > boundaries, nor are you questioning the status quo. You are using an image > without the slightest understanding of, or care for, its context. > > Instead of dismissing someone as being from a different culture, wouldn’t > pushing one's boundaries include putting some effort in understanding the > different cultures and a bit of historical context of things one chooses to > use? > > Sincerely, > Yaoguo Li > > > On Jan 31, 2021, at 4:16 PM, Yaoguo Li <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Ken, > > > > I may appreciate your light hearted approach, but your attempted humorous > > use of this image is of poor taste at best and utterly disrespectful on the > > other end of the spectrum. I suppose some thinking just doesn’t change! > > > > Sincerely, > > Yaoguo Li > > > >> On Jan 31, 2021, at 4:06 PM, Ken Witherly via SEGMIN > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Dear Colleagues > >> > >> I was confronted with three contractors, who for a variety of reasons, did > >> not make the deadline. 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