Thanks Dennis, you're correct and not we're not offended!Bob
Robert EllisEllis Geophysical Consulting Inc.9528 Xanthos LaneReno, Nevada 
89521  USASkype: BobEllisEGCIf email returned try: [email protected] 

    On Sunday, January 31, 2021, 06:41:13 PM PST, Dennis Woods via SEGMIN 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
 
 All

I am not sure what everyone else thinks about this latest discussion onSEGMIN, 
but I for one find it totally off centre to what the SEGMIN listserver is 
supposed to be about.  What was that now?  I don'tknow.  Could it be ... 
geophysics?  And in particular, miningand mineral exploration geophysics.  I 
happen to look forward toSEGMIN postings, and learn what other folk's opinions 
are on variousgeophysical topics that are of concern to me.

People responding to SEGMIN posts have to realize and understand that"reply" to 
a SEGMIN post means reply to everyone in the worldwho is subscribed to SEGMIN.  
Think about it for a second.  Doyou really want every mineral exploration 
geophysicist in the world toread what you are about to say?  Or are you only 
prompted to responddirectly to the postee? If the later, then send your 
response just tothat person.  Don't get the rest of us involved in a discussion 
thatis better left to other social media sites.

Realize that "reply" on a list server is the same as"reply to all".

I like hearing from other mineral exploration geophysicists from aroundthe 
world on SEGMIN, on topics of geophysics.  (I am growing to likeinternational 
Zoom meetings even more!).  We are in nobleprofession.  Particularly as the 
world evolves to an environmentallycleaner solution to global energy demands.  
Because technologicaland scientific answers to global problems inevitably 
requires resourcesto fuel those answers.  And those resources, which always 
have to bemined economically, are always harder to find.

We mineral exploration geophysicists will always be on the forefront ofthe 
quest to find resources.  Certainly nothing will happen withoutgeologist to 
understand earth processes, and geochemists to put it incontext.  But 
geophysics, and remote detection of mineral resourcesin the ground, by 
inference or whatever, through the science of physics,is going to play a huge 
part in our future.

Let us us mining and mineral exploration geophysicists on SEGMIN, tacklethe 
issues of our science, and leave the social commentary to othermedia.

Best to all,

Dennis Woods



At 04:50 PM 31/01/2021, Glenn Wilson via SEGMIN wrote:

No offense, but that is a prettyweak apology. Citing your rights under the US 
Constitution isprofessionally irrelevant as the SEGMIN mailing list is 
international.

Glenn

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 31, 2021, at 6:37 PM, KenWitherly via SEGMIN <[email protected]> 
wrote:

Thanks Bob. 

I felt I had used a powerful image with respect but regret ifnevertheless, 
certain individuals felt aggrieved by the use of thisimagery; this was not the 
intent. 

As Bob also mentions, the American constitution provides us with rightsof 
freedom of expression which is one of the most important rights I holdas an 
American citizen. 

Best/Ken
 

From: SEGMIN <[email protected]> On BehalfOf Robert Ellis via 
SEGMIN
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 5:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Robert Ellis <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [SEGMIN] [External] Final Cut

I doubt that Ken meant to offend anyone. I will defend Ken having knowhim for 
about 40 years and have never seen a slight indication ofdisrespect for various 
cultural backgrounds. We are fortunate to live ina country of free speech (for 
the moment) and everyone from diversebackgrounds need to just lighten up and 
get a grip. If you are a citizenof the US you are an American. If your not an 
American please respect ourfree speech while your here. I'm from Texas and 
pride of my heritagecounters all intended and unintentional jokes about Texans, 
of whichthere are many and undoubtedly there now will be more! Bring them 
onbabies.

Robert Ellis
Ellis Geophysical Consulting Inc.
9528 Xanthos Lane
Reno, Nevada 89521  USA
Skype: BobEllisEGC
If email returned try:[email protected]
 

On Sunday, January 31, 2021, 04:12:37 PM PST, Yaoguo Li via 
SEGMIN<[email protected]> wrote: 

Ken,

Just to follow up on our email exchange, and to provide a context for 
myprevious email:

My reaction has nothing to do with culture or background. It has to dowith 
basic human respect. I don't think you would use an image of a groupof gulag 
prisoners of Soviet era, or a Rwanda genocide scene, for such a"fun" posting, 
so I wonder why you would use this image in sucha way?

These are not your proverbial "sacred cows" as you refer tothem.  What an 
insult, although I am sure you didn't mean it! You are not pushing the 
boundaries, nor are you questioning the statusquo. You are using an image 
without the slightest understanding of, orcare for, its context.

Instead of dismissing someone as being from a different culture, 
wouldn'tpushing one's boundaries include putting some effort in understanding 
thedifferent cultures and a bit of historical context of things one choosesto 
use?

Sincerely,
Yaoguo Li

> On Jan 31, 2021, at 4:16 PM, Yaoguo Li<[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Ken,
> 
> I may appreciate your light hearted approach, but your attemptedhumorous use 
> of this image is of poor taste at best and utterlydisrespectful on the other 
> end of the spectrum. I suppose some thinkingjust doesn't change!
> 
> Sincerely,
> Yaoguo Li
> 
>> On Jan 31, 2021, at 4:06 PM, Ken Witherly via 
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>> Dear Colleagues
>> 
>> I was confronted with three contractors, who for a variety ofreasons, did 
>> not make the deadline. However, their persistent andpersuasiveness were 
>> compelling and like our very brave citizen inTiananmen Square in 1989, their 
>> steely resolution won out.
>> 
>> Best/Ken
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