I thought it was absolutely unnecessary for Ken to apologize. Just shows his 
good character and desire to go above and beyond. I have no such feeling of 
guilt or repression. However, now I'm so offended that someone would think his 
apology was "weak" that I may need to put on my pink tights and hide in a 
"comfort room". 
Robert EllisEllis Geophysical Consulting Inc.9528 Xanthos LaneReno, Nevada 
89521  USASkype: BobEllisEGCIf email returned try: [email protected] 

    On Sunday, January 31, 2021, 04:50:22 PM PST, Glenn Wilson 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
 
 No offense, but that is a pretty weak apology. Citing your rights under the US 
Constitution is professionally irrelevant as the SEGMIN mailing list is 
international. 
Glenn.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 31, 2021, at 6:37 PM, Ken Witherly via SEGMIN <[email protected]> 
wrote:





Thanks Bob. 

  

I felt I had used a powerful image with respect but regret if nevertheless, 
certain individuals felt aggrieved by the use of this imagery; this was not the 
intent. 

  

As Bob also mentions, the American constitution provides us with rights of 
freedom of expression which is one of the most important rights I hold as an 
American citizen. 

  

Best/Ken

  

From: SEGMIN <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Robert Ellis via 
SEGMIN
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 5:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Robert Ellis <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [SEGMIN] [External] Final Cut

  

I doubt that Ken meant to offend anyone. I will defend Ken having know him for 
about 40 years and have never seen a slight indication of disrespect for 
various cultural backgrounds. We are fortunate to live in a country of free 
speech (for the moment) and everyone from diverse backgrounds need to just 
lighten up and get a grip. If you are a citizen of the US you are an American. 
If your not an American please respect our free speech while your here. I'm 
from Texas and pride of my heritage counters all intended and unintentional 
jokes about Texans, of which there are many and undoubtedly there now will be 
more! Bring them on babies.

  

Robert Ellis

Ellis Geophysical Consulting Inc.

9528 Xanthos Lane

Reno, Nevada 89521  USA

Skype: BobEllisEGC

If email returned try: [email protected]

  

  

On Sunday, January 31, 2021, 04:12:37 PM PST, Yaoguo Li via SEGMIN 
<[email protected]> wrote: 

  

  

Ken,

Just to follow up on our email exchange, and to provide a context for my 
previous email:

My reaction has nothing to do with culture or background. It has to do with 
basic human respect. I don’t think you would use an image of a group of gulag 
prisoners of Soviet era, or a Rwanda genocide scene, for such a “fun” posting, 
so I wonder why you would use this image in such a way?

These are not your proverbial "sacred cows” as you refer to them.  What an 
insult, although I am sure you didn’t mean it!  You are not pushing the 
boundaries, nor are you questioning the status quo. You are using an image 
without the slightest understanding of, or care for, its context.

Instead of dismissing someone as being from a different culture, wouldn’t 
pushing one's boundaries include putting some effort in understanding the 
different cultures and a bit of historical context of things one chooses to use?

Sincerely,
Yaoguo Li

> On Jan 31, 2021, at 4:16 PM, Yaoguo Li <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Ken,
> 
> I may appreciate your light hearted approach, but your attempted humorous use 
> of this image is of poor taste at best and utterly disrespectful on the other 
> end of the spectrum. I suppose some thinking just doesn’t change!
> 
> Sincerely,
> Yaoguo Li
> 
>> On Jan 31, 2021, at 4:06 PM, Ken Witherly via SEGMIN 
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>> Dear Colleagues
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>> I was confronted with three contractors, who for a variety of reasons, did 
>> not make the deadline. However, their persistent and persuasiveness were 
>> compelling and like our very brave citizen in Tiananmen Square in 1989, 
>> their steely resolution won out.
>> 
>> Best/Ken
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