Hi Bernhard,
This seems like a case of the "when you have a hammer, everything looks
like a nail" principle. :) If the extension used - whether it's Annotator
or anything else - is keeping annotation information, it's presumably using
one or more of its own database tables to do that. And so the most logical
place to put tools to query and display that information would be in that
extension itself, not via SMW. You could make the case for a "Semantic
Annotator" extension that stores the text directly via SMW, but I don't see
the benefit in that. The use cases you present are all (not surprisingly)
self-contained - there's nothing like "show, in a table, all annotations
for pages about cars from before 1950". So I don't see much "synergy" in
being able to query everything together.
This starts to get into the larger question of whether SMW should be able
to query any wiki-related data - the so-called "semantification" concept -
but I would think if we're going to have that discussion, we should have
that larger discussion, and not tie it to this particular feature.
-Yaron
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Krabina Bernhard <krab...@kdz.or.at> wrote:
> Great, I didn't know about MashaJS. Is there a test wiki around. In the
> discussion there is a hint that it does not work with HeaderTabs...
>
> > Which use cases do you have in mind that involved queryable inline
> > comments?
>
> There can be reasons, where
>
> a) I want to have an overview of remarks that users made and the talk page
> and/or version history is too cumbersome, because you have to switch around
> all the time. If you want to ask users for comments on a text, a regular
> wiki is not very usable. annotations are great here.
> b) users don't want to/dare to/should not edit the text itself, but still
> should have to possibility to add/enhance/comment on the text
>
> It would be great to have features like:
> * show only annotations of user X on the page
> * show the text with annotations of users X and Y, but not from Z
> * show the users with most annotations
> ...
>
> regards,
> Bernhard
>
>
> ----- Ursprüngliche Mail -----
> >
> > Hi Bernhard!
> > Nice extension, reminds me of MashaJS:
> > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MashaJS
> >
> >
> > Which use cases do you have in mind that involved queryable inline
> > comments?
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Yury Katkov, WikiVote
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Krabina Bernhard <
> > krab...@kdz.or.at > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I just want to draw your attention to an interesting feature
> > currently missing in MW/SMW: the ability to easily annotate a (wiki)
> > document. There are lots of usecases for this and there are some
> > first results. The interesting thing of course would be to make
> > annotations semantic and therfore queryable!
> >
> > If anyone is interested, please look here:
> > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Annotator
> >
> > (I'm not in any way involved in this, I just stumbled across it and
> > thought it's very interesting).
> >
> > -Bernhard
> >
> >
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