Hi Yaron!
I'm in favor in semantifying everything but here I'd agree with you - I
don't yet see the usecase where it would be useful to have semantified
inline comments. Or any comments and discussions, for that matter.
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Yury Katkov, WikiVote
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Yaron Koren <ya...@wikiworks.com> wrote:
> Hi Bernhard,
>
> This seems like a case of the "when you have a hammer, everything looks
> like a nail" principle. :) If the extension used - whether it's Annotator
> or anything else - is keeping annotation information, it's presumably using
> one or more of its own database tables to do that. And so the most logical
> place to put tools to query and display that information would be in that
> extension itself, not via SMW. You could make the case for a "Semantic
> Annotator" extension that stores the text directly via SMW, but I don't see
> the benefit in that. The use cases you present are all (not surprisingly)
> self-contained - there's nothing like "show, in a table, all annotations
> for pages about cars from before 1950". So I don't see much "synergy" in
> being able to query everything together.
>
> This starts to get into the larger question of whether SMW should be able
> to query any wiki-related data - the so-called "semantification" concept -
> but I would think if we're going to have that discussion, we should have
> that larger discussion, and not tie it to this particular feature.
>
> -Yaron
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Krabina Bernhard <krab...@kdz.or.at>wrote:
>
>> Great, I didn't know about MashaJS. Is there a test wiki around. In the
>> discussion there is a hint that it does not work with HeaderTabs...
>>
>> > Which use cases do you have in mind that involved queryable inline
>> > comments?
>>
>> There can be reasons, where
>>
>> a) I want to have an overview of remarks that users made and the talk
>> page and/or version history is too cumbersome, because you have to switch
>> around all the time. If you want to ask users for comments on a text, a
>> regular wiki is not very usable. annotations are great here.
>> b) users don't want to/dare to/should not edit the text itself, but still
>> should have to possibility to add/enhance/comment on the text
>>
>> It would be great to have features like:
>> * show only annotations of user X on the page
>> * show the text with annotations of users X and Y, but not from Z
>> * show the users with most annotations
>> ...
>>
>> regards,
>> Bernhard
>>
>>
>> ----- Ursprüngliche Mail -----
>> >
>> > Hi Bernhard!
>> > Nice extension, reminds me of MashaJS:
>> > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MashaJS
>> >
>> >
>> > Which use cases do you have in mind that involved queryable inline
>> > comments?
>> >
>> >
>> > -----
>> > Yury Katkov, WikiVote
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Krabina Bernhard <
>> > krab...@kdz.or.at > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > I just want to draw your attention to an interesting feature
>> > currently missing in MW/SMW: the ability to easily annotate a (wiki)
>> > document. There are lots of usecases for this and there are some
>> > first results. The interesting thing of course would be to make
>> > annotations semantic and therfore queryable!
>> >
>> > If anyone is interested, please look here:
>> > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Annotator
>> >
>> > (I'm not in any way involved in this, I just stumbled across it and
>> > thought it's very interesting).
>> >
>> > -Bernhard
>> >
>> >
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