> On Oct 21, 2014, at 3:05 PM, James HK <jamesin.hongkon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The Foreground and Chameleon skin both have dedicated advantages over
> the Vector skin.

I couldn’t agree more with the above statement and I’m excited about this 
conversation. I think Semantic MediaWiki adopting a new skin with a modern look 
& feel and modern features would be a nice change and allow Semantic MediaWiki 
to better show it’s capabilities. In my limited experience whenever people see 
Vector they think Wikipedia (for good reasons, one of the largest and greatest 
sites on the Internet). When I show people my sites using Foreground they have 
a different reaction, largely positive and pleasing.

As one of the maintainers of Foreground along with Tom let me take a moment to 
advocate for using Foreground. Let me be very clear that I have nothing 
negative to say about Chameleon. I haven’t used it myself so I can’t speak to 
it’s advantages or weaknesses. I admire that it uses Travis-CI and has unit 
tests as well as it’s support for composer, both things that are on our backlog 
for Foreground.

Foreground is built on the Zurb Foundation framework. As such it has a feel 
similar to Foundation. It uses the Foundation grid, and brings with it nearly 
all of Foundations capabilities. Foreground has gained a good amount of 
traction. According to WikiApiary there are 48 wikis using Foreground as their 
*default* skin [1] and 174 wikis in total have Foreground installed. This makes 
it the 7th most popular skin used on MediaWiki sites [2]. The Foreground 
project on GitHub has gathered 30 stars along with 8 contributors and 54 closed 
pull requests [3]. 

Foreground also has an active wiki that highlights itself, this can be enhanced 
by anyone to further document it’s capabilities [4]. There is also a relatively 
active mailing list for Foreground [5] (although the archives are currently 
broken on the web).

I believe key to Foreground’s continued success are some of the wikis using it. 
WikiApiary is built on Foreground and uses Semantic MediaWiki extensively, the 
2nd largest Semantic MediaWiki site online [6] (as tracked by WikiApiary which 
we know there are at least 2 very large Semantic MediaWiki sites not tracked, 
so make it 4th). WikiTranslate also uses Foreground as does the Joomla 
Documentation wiki [7].

Also importantly Foreground CSS has actually been modified to deal with many 
Semantic MediaWiki result formats and Semantic Forms fields as well.

Again, take all this as one of the maintainers of Foreground advocating for 
it’s use and not against other options.

Thanks for reading and for considering!

Jamie


[1] https://wikiapiary.com/wiki/Skin:Foreground 
<https://wikiapiary.com/wiki/Skin:Foreground>
[2] https://wikiapiary.com/wiki/Skin:Skins 
<https://wikiapiary.com/wiki/Skin:Skins>
[3] https://github.com/thingles/foreground 
<https://github.com/thingles/foreground>
[4] http://foreground.thingelstad.com/wiki/Main_Page 
<http://foreground.thingelstad.com/wiki/Main_Page>
[5] http://lists.thingelstad.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foreground-l 
<http://lists.thingelstad.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foreground-l>
[6] https://wikiapiary.com/wiki/Semantic_statistics 
<https://wikiapiary.com/wiki/Semantic_statistics>
[7] http://docs.joomla.org <http://docs.joomla.org/>

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