On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/IEsfSKfWuD6f0zvZPv2ax8pJDAZBlxkmS9al3FFaKSGg0Co7c4bn8CQEdQEYOYBNvK2KXi_sRo1Xym0eAhMRDw/Screenshot%201.pdf > > Wait, you can't expect james developers to mass signup to yahoo :-( > Futhermore I have a yahoo account but I think I have no access to the above > links.
Sorry! my mistake! I thought everyone would be able to access it. This was an honest mistake. I just wanted a place where we can share files and other resources. Here is a flicker site : http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/?saved=1 If there are only 20 developers lets just get them a yahoo group/ google group UNLESS we have something similar? Is that a bad idea? We really really need more than just a mailing list we need a workgroup / collaborative environment (the more the better: if there is one with a white board and sketching plugin it would be cooler). Stefano, you know what I am talking about, right? I dont want to offend anyone or be rude I just want to help ; I hope I didnt show any disrespect. Stefano if there is any problems I beg you to tell me and please let us open a mailing list where we can be more collaborative. I cannot send attachments to this mailing list. Lets find something where we can exchange attachments and pdfs (I tried sending one but the apache mailing list bounced it). What we care about is getting nice user friendly functionality for the app, right? do we really care what tools are used to collaborate in the contribution to James ? or for example what OS is used by our developers? Who is our competitor by the way? Lets keep those guys in our sights as well : for comparison purposes and so we can capture greater market share than them. Let us keep track of data that relates market share even if it means making it an expense billable to the foundation. > Apache Software Foundation has a lot of infrastructure and we should > leverage the use of already existing tool. > We, by choice,only use the mailing list for communication. > We have a wiki (http://wiki.apache.org/james/), we can have a confluence > space (for ASF committers only, ATM), we have jira > (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JAMES) for issues tracking. > > Do you think you can try to do your work using our already existing mailing > lists and our already existing wiki? I would love to! anything ! I am however used to a windows environment and a bit more userfriendliness and I have trouble even uploading images to the en.wikipedia.org/wiki website... I like wikis for editing and creating text based information but images are a lot more difficult to share ; so is any real time interaction. The issues tracking is rather negative in my humble opinion : it connotes that there is a problem which needs to be tackled. I would love to use it but if > If you plan to be active in the james project or in any other Apache > project you should also definitely read this: > http://www.apache.org/foundation/getinvolved.html Will do but in my humble opinion I would like it if I could get to the part where I can contribute before reading protocol and other bureaucratic stuff. > If you are used to 3rd party tools (basecamp or similar) you can use them, > but please make the pages public and visible to everyone so that other > users/developers do not have to signup with them. basecamp just made their website NOT free. Is there a similar alternative that anyone knows of ? If not I can code something like that. > Maybe we should also move this discussion to [EMAIL PROTECTED] list, as > this is starting to be more "developers oriented" and users could be > scared/bored by technical details ;-) Fine :) I will look to subscribing it. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
