> JBoss is toast. > Nope. Still the most prevalent open source app server. > > J2EE is dead. > For me it was still birth.
If J2EE was still birth, that makes JBoss what? The best instance of the still births? > Java is moot. > That's just crazy talk. JP - Java hit alpha2 in november of 1995. I know because I quit my "stable" job to do full time Java consulting that month. Java had a nice life - and will continue to have a nice life. As languages mature so does their ability to innovate due to legacy customer constraints. No big deal - just how things go. > Long live SCA. > Why? SCA cleans up J2EE API mistakes, it binds components and services, introduces encapsulation for DSL's and provides a uniform data model. Nothing is perfect, but SCA represents the innovation that we've seen at the open source level (Spring/IoC/etc.) taken to the next level and packaged by major vendors, enabling Very Large customers an easy buy/support model. > Long live Ruby. > Now you sound like a zealous programmer that has no sense of > reality. Like I didnt' hear that about Java in 1996 :-) You can continue to tell your customers to NOT use SCA or Ruby and to find innovation in JBoss and Java 5.0. Your call. I will tell my customers to leverage coarse grained services that are loosely wired together, leveraging a component model containing domain specific languages. And that they should use the most dynamic and participative presentation and collaboration framework available to them, regardless of the language. IMHO, failure to acknowledge the Ruby advantage and associated movement is a mistake. Now, many of my customers will not be able to make the WOA/SOA/SCA/DSL transition anytime soon. That's cool. JBoss/WebSphere/WebLogic and are just fine for stabilized environments. More agressive shops will likely look at Spring/Hybernate/etc. And even more aggressive shops will do WOA/SOA/SCA/DSL. I.T. shops that do not seek advantage or innovation will likely not seek change. I'm glad we agreed on 'peace on earth' and 'good will to men' ;-) ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Most low income homes are not online. Make a difference this holiday season! http://us.click.yahoo.com/5UeCyC/BWHMAA/TtwFAA/NhFolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/service-orientated-architecture/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
