You can get some information on it at my J/JS Group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jini_javaspaces/files/), but I believe jini.org is the best source. What do you think on this one, Gregg?
J/JS is what I call one of Sun's Orphan Java Technologies. I have heard many stories (usually involving political infighting) why they never bothered to promote their Orphans, but I still find it incomprehensible. Gervas --- In [email protected], "Anne Thomas Manes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jini/JavaSpaces is quite different from CORBA. It's not at all a > language-specific reinvention of the same old thing. It's worth your time to > investigate it. > > Anne > > On 3/3/06, William Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Thanks Gregg. I'll have a deeper look at that site. At first glance > > this looks like a good environment for a technology like Jini. I have > > a friend that will be very interested in this article. What's > > interesting is the real time (ish) performance. My friend has been in > > this industry (high performance car data collection. monitoring and > > test and configuration etc) for years and can't imagine moving from > > embedded C to Java. I'll have to have him look at this - he'll be > > interested. I'd also be interested in performance metrics and > > performance satisfaction metrics for this example. > > > > > I continue to be saddened by the loud voices of ignorance that push > > > away > > > technologies such as Jini which have so much to offer for those > > > motivated enough > > > to look. The problems of SOA and related distributed computing are > > > not simple. > > > The Jini platform was put together by people who understand the > > > science. > > > > BTW many of us non-Jini-user folks understand good science too. I'm > > not pushing it away - I just think that it has it's place and limits > > like all technologies. > > > > > Your interest in native only integration is a little > > > alarming. To me, it says that your systems are living on the edge of > > > performance, or software development platforms/skills are limiting > > > your choices. > > > > Money, licensing, existing incumbant technology, existing high > > performance, mission critical and leave-well-enough alone > > applications are often limiting my customers choices. My customers > > can't just throw out everything they have and rewrite their > > application in the next new fad of the month. They've already > > invested millions in these applications and are doing $billions of > > business with them. Nor can they insert a wrapper layer that will > > impact their high performance mission critical systems - so they want > > native integration to a standards-based outside world. In other words > > they don't want service enabling technology to have a negative impact > > on their service. (Hence why my customers also tend to look more for > > smart end-point integration than having to use hub technology - this > > may seem contradictory but it is not). > > > > Thanks for the link. I promise to make myself less ignorant of Jini. > > I have to say this: from my first look at Jini - it looks a lot like > > a reinvention of CORBA but without the language independence > > obviously. In fact it looks entirely like a Java specific reinvention > > of CORBA. (Which already has a Java language binding. Why reinvent > > this???) > > > > In fact when I go back to the F1 example I wonder why someone > > wouldn't use an embedded C CORBA ORB to solve the problem? Like other > > part so the automotive industry are now doing. ?? > > > > William > > > > On Mar 2, 2006, at 10:30 AM, Gregg Wonderly wrote: > > > > > William Henry wrote: > > >> Okay has anyone else had enough of this? Is this the Jini list or the > > >> SOA list? > > > > > > William, I'm sorry to strike a sour note with my reponses. I've > > > sat back and > > > watched this list for some time and have seen, as Gervas pointed > > > out, many > > > different themes passing through. I am particularly concerned > > > about the > > > re-creation of technologies by the ignorant. So, I am sitting here > > > trying to > > > communicate which "features of desire" for the week, are already in > > > place in the > > > Jini platform. I've probably (some of the responses to yours say > > > clearly) done > > > a horrible job of providing a convincing argument. > > > > > > I continue to be saddened by the loud voices of ignorance that push > > > away > > > technologies such as Jini which have so much to offer for those > > > motivated enough > > > to look. The problems of SOA and related distributed computing are > > > not simple. > > > The Jini platform was put together by people who understand the > > > science. The > > > fact that the platform doesn't come with a web services endpoint, > > > and that there > > > is not one visible in the Jini community, should speak to where the > > > real needs > > > are. There are, of course other technologies that are starting to > > > reveal an > > > understanding of the science, and the needs of the users. > > > > > > Jini has no lack of ability to provide performant solutions that > > > interface to a > > > wide range of entities. Your interest in native only integration > > > is a little > > > alarming. To me, it says that your systems are living on the edge of > > > performance, or software development platforms/skills are limiting > > > your choices. > > > > > > Look at > > > <http://developers.sun.com/learning/javaoneonline/2005/coolstuff/ > > > TS-1915.html> > > > for an example of a performant system created to interface with low > > > level > > > devices. It provided a winning advantage to the F1 team. > > > > > > Gregg Wonderly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/service-orientated-architecture/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
