Yes, absolutely.  I agree completely with this and
perhaps that is part of my confusion since I haven't
understood what was being debated.  I have in fact
written about services in exactly this way in my book.


Eric


--- Jan Algermissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> 
> On Mar 12, 2006, at 11:42 PM, Jan Algermissen wrote:
> 
> >
> > On Mar 12, 2006, at 5:39 PM, Eric Newcomer wrote:
> >
> >>  Are you
> >> implying that an SOA doesn't have to be realized
> in
> >> software?
> >
> > I think Todd is argueing
> 
> Sorry, that should have read: "JP and Todd".
> 
> 
> > that service orientation can be beneficially
> > applied at the business level by managing/modeling
> interactions
> > between intra-organisational parties in terms of
> services they
> > provide to each other (resulting in a contracts
> and responsibilities
> > view).
> >
> > The software services that are implemented to meet
> the contractural
> > responsibilities then merely *derive* from that
> higher level approach.
> >
> > I find that idea rather attractive, as it enables
> a view on business
> > 'subsystems' interaction that groups communication
> into various
> > functionally related 'channels' (into various
> services).[1]
> >
> > Hope that replays Todd's point close enough.
> >
> > [1] An example of that might be defining a
> 'helpdesk' as the single
> > point of communication between IT service provider
> and customer in
> > the IT Service management world. Such a helpdesk
> will of course
> > usually be a piece of software but it might well
> be just a single
> > support phone number (no SOA technology there).
> >
> >
> > Jan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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