Patrick/Michael et al.

If you wish to airily dismiss ZT's paper and Zachman, that is one
matter (mind you, none of you have given a specific reason for this).
 However if you want to carry on some long running
protocol/architecture battle, it might be clearer for everyone if you
created a thread for it instead of hijacking other threads.

This particularly applies to threads where people look above the
technical nitty-gritty of the SOA layer!

Gervas
Moderator

--- In [email protected],
"patrickdlogan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Actually this is the main reason I don't tend to participate very
> > much on this list anymore.  It has turned out to be one of those
> > places where you can't escape the fruitless, endless arguments over
> > whose perspective or opinion is correct.
> 
> I've found the discussions on the list getting better recently because
> they've been more than WS-* rah rah. Kind of ironic. I guess we're at
> other ends of the spectrum.
> 
> In any case, Eric, you made a claim about simplicity and message
> headers, I suppose in WS-* vs. HTTP. I asked for a demonstration of
> this comparison. You asked me to propose a scenario... I did so about
> a week back I guess. 
> 
> There are a number of instances in that scenario where one might apply
> some HTTP, XMPP, JMS, WS-*, or other technology to. I would really
> appreciate some kind of a discussion about, yes, technology, rather
> than Zachman or SOA-or-be-doomed. If there is something in that
> scenario you can use to illustrate the simplicity or whatever of WS-*
> something then perhaps a comparison could be made to how HTTP, XMPP,
> or something non-WS-* could be applied to the same situation.
> 
> You made a claim... let's dig in and see if it is beyond fruitless to
> explore it.
> 
> -Patrick
>









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