Hi Steve,

No, I don't think there is an accepted or stable
definition of ESB... but then again, there wasn't one
for OO, or SOA for that matter. I recall application
servers had a hard time getting pinned down too. ;-) 

But frankly, the market is somewhat of a fiasco.  Some
ESB's really are nothing more than what Spiritsoft did
8+ years ago.    I think some (not just BEA's ;-) have
some real productive value, but it's likely going to
be another 12 months before the market figures out
whether it wants to jettison the whole category or
whether it wants to keep it and highlight certain
features as more "crucial" than others.

Myself, I still think of an ESB as inverting the old
approach to integration.  It's not about relying on
one vendor's messaging platform, it's about how to
adapt between contracts, independent of whatever wire
protocol and transfer protocol is defining them.  

Cheers
Stu

--- Steve Ross-Talbot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So what is an ESB?
> 
> Is there any sort of stable and accepted definition
> of what an ESB 
> really is?
> 
> What is the difference between a JMS vendor with
> some basic brokering 
> ability (for message xformation and routing)
> against an ESB vendor?
> 
> Having founded Spiritsoft in 1997 and having given
> birth to the 
> SpiritArchitecture I see no differentiation between
> what I have said above and an ESB. So what is new
> and cool and needed 
> about and ESB?
> 
> Is it just marketecture or is there substance
> behind?
> 
> Sorry for posing the questions but, oddly enough, I
> don't have an 
> answer myself so I thought I'd ask you folks
> what you think.
> 
> Looking fwd to the replies.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Steve T


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