How about multiple layers of services, which include a Process as a Service?
Process services (composites) à Business Services (Task, entities) à Application Services (COTS, function, utility, etc) Simon From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 1:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [service-orientated-architecture] Re: BPM & SO I'm not buying the Process is a higher level of abstraction than service. Lets put it this way General Electric offer me a service as a shareholder, there is a defined contract and a defined value and a defined set of interactions. In otherwords its the entire General Electric company that I'm interacting with. This isn't even the most abstract service I can think of, take the UN, EU or whatever all can be, fairly easily, described as a service. You can't describe a business just in terms of its processes. On 28/04/07, Jerry Zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: Form business people's perspective, yes, SOA and BPM are the same thing. From IT people's perspective, they are different as much as they are different between OO and SOA. We often say that Service is higher level of abstraction than Objects. In the same line, Processes in BPM is higher level abstraction than Service. Both business logic and infrustracture units at these different levels of abstraction are different. I see BMP is the highest level of abstration in the evolution of IT started from machine language 0's and 1's. Jerry --- Todd Biske <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:todd.biske%40gmail.com> > wrote: > > On Apr 27, 2007, at 8:51 AM, Robin wrote: > > > > > > What I say is that my business decision makers > don't understand why > > they should invest in SOA if it does not help them > to optimize their > > business processes, so they tend to consider that > BPM and SOA are one > > same thing. I don't know how far this thinking is > the result of vendors marketing. > > > > This is consistent with the statements that came out > of the SOA > Consortium Executive briefings. The CIOs > participating pretty much > said the same thing, as the first of the five > published insights was > that "There should be no artificial separation > between BPM and SOA." > > -tb > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
