>From your perspective, you received a service from GE. From GE perspective it is a business process that ended in delivering a service/product to you, a customer.
Of course, process is not all that is used to model an enterprise. It is the operating processes where SOA is most useful. Jerry --- Steve Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not buying the Process is a higher level of > abstraction than service. > Lets put it this way > > General Electric offer me a service as a > shareholder, there is a defined > contract and a defined value and a defined set of > interactions. In > otherwords its the entire General Electric company > that I'm interacting > with. This isn't even the most abstract service I > can think of, take the > UN, EU or whatever all can be, fairly easily, > described as a service. > > You can't describe a business just in terms of its > processes. > > > > On 28/04/07, Jerry Zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Form business people's perspective, yes, SOA and > BPM > > are the same thing. From IT people's perspective, > > they are different as much as they are different > > between OO and SOA. > > > > We often say that Service is higher level of > > abstraction than Objects. In the same line, > Processes > > in BPM is higher level abstraction than Service. > Both > > business logic and infrustracture units at these > > different levels of abstraction are different. I > see > > BMP is the highest level of abstration in the > > evolution of IT started from machine language 0's > and > > 1's. > > > > Jerry > > > > --- Todd Biske <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <todd.biske%40gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Apr 27, 2007, at 8:51 AM, Robin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > What I say is that my business decision makers > > > don't understand why > > > > they should invest in SOA if it does not help > them > > > to optimize their > > > > business processes, so they tend to consider > that > > > BPM and SOA are one > > > > same thing. I don't know how far this thinking > is > > > the result of vendors marketing. > > > > > > > > > > This is consistent with the statements that came > out > > > of the SOA > > > Consortium Executive briefings. The CIOs > > > participating pretty much > > > said the same thing, as the first of the five > > > published insights was > > > that "There should be no artificial separation > > > between BPM and SOA." > > > > > > -tb > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > >
