--- In [email protected], Yogish Pai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes! Governance is hampering SOA (I would not say that it is killing SOA) and has got nothing to do with technology, products or standards. > > It is all about how to leverage people with diverse skills and background, alignment and consistency between various governance processes (Corporate, IT, EA, SOA, etc) and politics (escalation process, conflict resolutions, who makes what decision, etc.). > > Based on my limited observation, I am yet to see a clearly defined approach by the leadership team to deal with each of these issues. Yes! these topics need to be clearly defined and communicated out to the enterprise.
Is a lot of this not down largely to the disconnect between ICT and non-ICT parts of the enterprise that frequently arises in discussions in this Group? In other words is this largely down to a lack of necessary communication and comprehension? We seem to find it impossible to define SOA with a reasonable degree of consensus in this Group. If you were to ask a non-ICT CxO in your organisation what was their perception of SOA, do you think on average that you would receive a meaningful, coherent response? Gervas > > - Yogish > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: JP Morgenthal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:49:55 AM > Subject: Re: [service-orientated-architecture] Is Governance Killing SOA? > > > In my experience, a conceptual understanding of what is a service > is killing SOA. I'd like to believe after the last 14 years that > I have built a good experience base for design of services (that > includes CORBA). I design nice service-oriented boundaries and > software engineers look at it and just go straight for the > tightly-coupled modeled and then tell me, "no, it's not > tightly-coupled because it's based on an interface." > > Interface-based design and design-by-contract are not > one-in-the-same, but as long as a majority of individuals > implementing SOA don't understand this delicate delineation, SOA > will suffer. Clearly, for many software engineers, they see a > service as a reusable component, while for many of us that have > been at this game awhile, we see a service as a more declarative > entity oriented strongly toward a business bent. > > Having to share SOA design with engineers that don't get it has > consistently led to a failure to move forward with the SOA design > in favor of a modified component-oriented design. Hence, failed > SOA. > > On Thu Jul 17 11:49:20 CDT 2008, jeffrschneider > <jeffrschneider@ hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Is governance killing SOA? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > Jeff Schneider > > > > > > >
