--- In [email protected], "Anne Thomas 
Manes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> +1.
> 
> To rephrase, lack of governance (i.e., the complete process) 
> severely impedes SOA.
> 
> Jeff asked me this question privately last week. Today he asked me
> whether 'business & I.T. alignment' is killing SOA. My response to 
> him was:
> 
> I think lack of understanding of what it really takes to do SOA is
> what kills SOA. 

Could "SOA" in the above be replaced with "architecture" (of any 
sort) and the statements still hold true? IMO, yes. It's not the SO 
part that is the issue. It's the A part.

> To fully deliver the returns promised by SOA, it 
> needs to be part of a much larger initiative to transform IT. The 
> following perspectives will significantly limit the potential 
> return on investment:
> 
> - Technology-centric effort
> - Project-centric effort
> - Integration-focused effort
> 
> Characteristics that facilitate success:
> 
> - Investment in social capital, i.e. learn to speak "business" and
> establish trust
> - Enterprise-wide perspective
> - Prioritization of projects based on desired business outcomes
> - Focus on improving data quality and process optimization
> - Major changes to the IT department, e.g., new CIO, reorganization,
> adoption of agile
> 
> Anne
> 
> p.s. (this was not part of my original response to Jeff)
> The major changes to the IT department aren't essential, but they
> cause a massive shake-up that typically sparks a significant change 
> in the attitude of the IT staff -- both in the way they interact 
> with each other and the way they interact with people in other 
> groups. It's the change in attitude that facilitates success

None of these characteristics (the wrong perspectives nor the keys to 
success) have anything to do with SOA, IMO. They are important for 
any enterprise level architecture to succeed. Indeed, they don't 
apply only to architecture efforts either. They speak to corporate 
culture and relationships among groups. They are aspects that have a 
broader reach than just architecture.

Which is of course your point (I think). Please correct me if I'm 
interpreting your post incorrectly!

So those that are brought in to a company to help "do SOA", (such as 
the fine folks at Burton Group!) end up needing to "fix" the company 
interaction dynamics first in order to succeed with that effort at 
the enterprise level. Is that a fair statement?

It seems that the prerequisite characteristics are independent of 
architectural style. So would tying those characteristics to SOA be 
inappropriate?

Is the focus on "transforming IT" misplaced? Perhaps that would be 
better viewed as a potential byproduct of pursuing the 
characteristics above--which are intended to for an end goal of a 
more successful business rather than a goal of "transforming IT." 
Aren't we trying to transform/improve the business?

-Rob


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