Bingo!

- Anne

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Rob Eamon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "Anne Thomas
>
> Manes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> +1.
>>
>> To rephrase, lack of governance (i.e., the complete process)
>> severely impedes SOA.
>>
>> Jeff asked me this question privately last week. Today he asked me
>> whether 'business & I.T. alignment' is killing SOA. My response to
>> him was:
>>
>> I think lack of understanding of what it really takes to do SOA is
>> what kills SOA.
>
> Could "SOA" in the above be replaced with "architecture" (of any
> sort) and the statements still hold true? IMO, yes. It's not the SO
> part that is the issue. It's the A part.
>
>> To fully deliver the returns promised by SOA, it
>> needs to be part of a much larger initiative to transform IT. The
>> following perspectives will significantly limit the potential
>> return on investment:
>>
>> - Technology-centric effort
>> - Project-centric effort
>> - Integration-focused effort
>>
>> Characteristics that facilitate success:
>>
>> - Investment in social capital, i.e. learn to speak "business" and
>> establish trust
>> - Enterprise-wide perspective
>> - Prioritization of projects based on desired business outcomes
>> - Focus on improving data quality and process optimization
>> - Major changes to the IT department, e.g., new CIO, reorganization,
>> adoption of agile
>>
>> Anne
>>
>> p.s. (this was not part of my original response to Jeff)
>> The major changes to the IT department aren't essential, but they
>> cause a massive shake-up that typically sparks a significant change
>> in the attitude of the IT staff -- both in the way they interact
>> with each other and the way they interact with people in other
>> groups. It's the change in attitude that facilitates success
>
> None of these characteristics (the wrong perspectives nor the keys to
> success) have anything to do with SOA, IMO. They are important for
> any enterprise level architecture to succeed. Indeed, they don't
> apply only to architecture efforts either. They speak to corporate
> culture and relationships among groups. They are aspects that have a
> broader reach than just architecture.
>
> Which is of course your point (I think). Please correct me if I'm
> interpreting your post incorrectly!
>
> So those that are brought in to a company to help "do SOA", (such as
> the fine folks at Burton Group!) end up needing to "fix" the company
> interaction dynamics first in order to succeed with that effort at
> the enterprise level. Is that a fair statement?
>
> It seems that the prerequisite characteristics are independent of
> architectural style. So would tying those characteristics to SOA be
> inappropriate?
>
> Is the focus on "transforming IT" misplaced? Perhaps that would be
> better viewed as a potential byproduct of pursuing the
> characteristics above--which are intended to for an end goal of a
> more successful business rather than a goal of "transforming IT."
> Aren't we trying to transform/improve the business?
>
> -Rob
>
> 

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