The disconnect comes from context. The word "integration" in the
non-IT world is a warm and fuzzy thing. But the word has a very
different meaning and generates extreme angst in the IT world. It
refers to force-fitting things together that were never intended to
get along.

Anne

On 1/7/09, JP Morgenthal <[email protected]> wrote:
> Alex,
>
> Thanks for saving me the hassle of explaining.  Now I get to just +1
> your response.
>
> JP
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:53 AM, Alexander Johannesen
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 05:31, Nick Gall <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> My point is that in common usage, "integration" is rarely pejorative and
>>> usually connotes the concept of being designed to work together from the
>>> start -- NOT retrofitting the ability to work together.
>>
>> As someone who's spent 14 years in companies doing integration, I'd
>> say you live in a fantasy world. :) Integration projects are often
>> very messy things, so even if the pipe-dream of everything being
>> designed to work together from the get go is there, it is very far
>> from reality. Besides, are you trusting sales materials from BMW more
>> than integration practitioners?
>>
>>> Rather than expect
>>> everyone to intuit your interpretation of "integration", why not just
>>> modify
>>> it with an adjective like "ad hoc" or "post hoc" to be clear, ie "ad hoc
>>> integration".
>>
>> Because it ain't used that way? :) Whenever anyone say "we need to
>> integrate our system with this other system" people shiver and sweat
>> and hope that they're not part of that project, because down that path
>> lies madness, ad-hoc or not.
>>
>> Perhaps a bit overstated, but "integration" is not a feel-good word
>> (in my world of enterprise consultancy services).
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Alex
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