So, as in the other thread, what do you think about using BEI?

H.Ozawa

--- In [email protected], Gregg Wonderly 
<ge...@...> wrote:
>
> htshozawa wrote:
> > That's exactly why we should stick with SOA instead of changing names. 
> > Changing names seems like we were defeated or worse, that we are just 
> > trying to sell the same of stuff under a different name. The point is 
> > there were some (many?) initiatives/projects that went sour but if we 
> > were a used car dealer, would we change the name because the dealership 
> > across the street is selling lots of lemons?
> 
> Have you been to a KFC (Kentucky Friend Chicken) restaurant lately?  It may 
> soon 
> be KBC (Kentucky Baked Chicken) or just KC that are the initials for the 
> company.  Fried food is bad for the masses, in general, and getting Fried out 
> of 
> the name is not such a bad thing.
> 
> At some point, we have to decide that SOA doesn't really describe anything 
> tangible.  It doesn't spell out the things that help people understand what 
> to 
> do where and how.  It says why and when, but people already know what they've 
> done, where they did and how they did it.  And they know it's not working 
> now, 
> and many can even see why it's not working.  But, the only way to establish a 
> "what, where and how" is to decide on some technically based solutions and 
> deploy them.
> 
> The missing specifics, because of too many technologies and related, yet 
> incompatible standards keep people from being successful unless they hire an 
> expert that can learn where they are at, and then plot the course to where 
> they 
> need to be.  Only after understanding all the technologies, could one 
> possibly 
> make the "best" choice.
> 
> Usually that's a lot more work than your boss will pay you for, or has time 
> for 
> you to learn, so whatever appears closest to working first is what people 
> will 
> elect to use.
> 
> The regular emails to this list that say "I'm converting our software to an 
> SOA, 
> what do I need to download and use" pretty much spell out the simple 
> expectations that many people have, and the fact that they are most likely 
> going 
> to fail many times because everyone will tell them something different that 
> seems to all fit together until you get down to the actual integration and 
> find 
> out that this one speaks JMS and that one speaks .Net and this one over here 
> provides HTTP access and yields XML documents and...
> 
> Gregg Wonderly
>


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