Please leave off this topic lets get back to ourold business if u are
specific pls address them to a particular person not to the entire list.


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On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Rod McChesney wrote:

> Please, enough flaming. If you have a specific idea of how you would
> like to program for the Web with servlets, why not air it instead of
> complaining about existing stuff?
>
> I believe almost any solution you come up with will end up looking
> either like ECS or like a templating solution, however, because those
> pretty much cover the possible range. Even perl with here-documents
> amounts to templating, it's just that the templates are in a perl
> script.
>
> Rod McChesney, Korobra
>
> Peter wrote:
> >
> > >I have tought that webmacro, freemaker etc. are too complex to be used
> > >by me.
> >
> > That's exactly my point!!!! Why can't these stuff be a bit easier ? Things
> > dont have to be complicated to be used. Instead of offering alternatives,
> > most of you guys just keep pushing your webmacro, jsp, freemarker cr*p down
> > our throats. The strangest thing is that, most of these template tools web
> > sites dont provide easy AND workable examples on their functionality. Most
> > are just plain ads coupled with convoluted examples and the infamous Hello
> > world servlet. Please .......
> >
> > So when people like yours truly complaint on how complicated they are to
> > use, then came forth those derogatory remarks such as "unreformed perl
> > programmer", "messy coder" etc-etc ....... well go ahead and make yourself
> > feel superior by trashing out at us .......
> >
> > I really hope that in the future, servlet development will not be so painful
> > and messy as it is at the present.
> >
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