I shall be brief:
How about this for an idea: if and when a person feels so strongly about an
off-topic question that he/she cannot help but scream at the offender, how about
that is done off line? That way, the appropriate person is told off, (and possibly
gets a chance to carry on the fight forever if necessary ;-)), the person who is
offended feels a sense of duty done, and the rest of us can carry on in peace (and
without the niggling doubt that somehow the decibal level increases when there is a
(large) audience)?
On the other hand, a person who in fact can vocalise his/her thoughts calmly could
well air them publicly since I dont believe anyone could have any objections to
reasonable and reasoned feelings, politely stated (ref Craig below)..
Just a thought.. (and the last one I shall air on the (off-)topic). Thanks for your
time,
Geeta
"Craig R. McClanahan" wrote:
> "Yamijala, Kalyan" wrote:
>
> > I guess there is no point in being rude to people.. This list is used for
> > information sharing, nobody owns this list , and nobody has the right to
> > tell people not to ask questions.
>
> Can I give you some friendly advice? *Please* read the policies that relate to
> this list -- they are published to everyone at least once a week in case you
> didn't read the confirmation message when you joined :-). Being rude (or
> better, being polite) is a two way street.
>
> This list is for asking and answering questions about servlets. Everything else
> (including dates and string formatting and JavaScript and JDBC drivers and all
> that) is off topic, and not appropriate. There are other forums that address
> those issues.
>
> > I know it is good practice to go through
> > the Archives, before asking questions. But you cannot enforce this, because
> > there are always people ready to answer, however silly the question may be.
> > I also know it is irritating to see all those small questions and the
> > replies to it. But let me remind you ..my friend, all it takes is a key
> > stroke to delete a message. And I guess you have to put up with things like
> > this in open user lists and user groups.
> >
> > BTW.. I'm sorry if my message seemed rude to anybody.
> >
>
> Let me make it very clear why asking (and answering) off-topic questions is
> counterproductive.
>
> As anyone who recognizes my name will tell you, I'm one of the folks who knows
> quite a bit about servlets :-). Coupled with that, my personality drives me to
> want to share what I know, and to help people. Over the last few years, I have
> answered hundreds (maybe even thousands?) of such questions.
>
> But (there is always a but ...) my time available to do this is limited.
>
> At the moment, I have more than 250 messages (just from the last two days) in my
> SERVLET-INTEREST folder that I haven't read yet. Usually, I do that while
> waiting for compiles, or having my first morning coffee, or whatnot. However, a
> quick scan of the message headers says that well over 50% of these messages are
> off topic. Even though I know the answers to most of the questions about JDBC
> drivers and such, that is not why I'm here -- I want to share what I know about
> building web apps with servlet and JSP technology.
>
> As a result, over the last few months, and as the percentage of off topic
> questions and answers has dramatically increased, I spend less and less time on
> SERVLET-INTEREST. It simply takes too much time to scan and ignore the
> off-topic stuff, so I don't even have time to notice the questions that can and
> should be answered.
>
> This is not what I want. This should not be what you want either.
>
> The way to avoid that is to be polite to the folks like me, who *want* to answer
> relevant questions. And that politeness revolves around respecting the rules of
> the community in which we are participating here. Both asking, and answering,
> off topic questions violates that principle of respect, and discourages high
> quality exchanges about the single topic we all want to talk about, or we
> wouldn't have joined in the first place.
>
> Thanks for letting me pontificate a little, although I had to violate a personal
> policy (to never respond to an off-topic post) to do it :-).
>
> Craig McClanahan
>
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