Based on what I see offset shouldn't affect either one. GregZ
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scott Bershing Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Scotland vs. Measuring Gauge How does offset affect the readings on both machines? At 09:16 PM 3/30/2003 -0500, you wrote: >As far as the GS Gauge is concerned, the plane of the shaft (as it effects >loft) and the plane base is 90 deg. Given that, bounce should make no >difference in the loft reading. Whether you line up the clubface to dead >square on the GS Gauge definitely would make a difference though. > >GregZ > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of bob boone >Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 8:36 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Scotland vs. Measuring Gauge > > >Loft on irons is measured from the centerline of the shaft, so if the face >of the iron is flat against the arms of the Scotland, you are getting the >loft. The base of the measuring gage is perpendicular to the arm holding the >shaft, you should get identical measurements!! > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Behalf Of Scott Bershing >Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 5:21 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Scotland vs. Measuring Gauge > >Could it be possible that the difference I'm seeing is due to the bounce? >The GS gauge measures loft in relation to the flat surface of the base of >the gauge, vs. the Scotland measures relative to preset angles that aren't >affected by the bounce. > >Scott > >At 08:08 PM 3/30/2003 -0500, you wrote: > >Hi Scott, > > > >I have the same two machines as you and have found the measurements on the > >Scotland to be consistently 1 degree weaker than on the GS Club Gauge. The > >lie is too close to call. Based on printed specs all bets are off when I >got > >into measuring a friends Volkey wedges. I got really weak measurements on > >all three with the Scotland and the Golf Club Gauge. As the iron gets > >shorter I have a more difficult time lining up the clubface on the Golf >Club > >Gauge. > > > >As far as the Scotland goes, just looking at the mechanics of the system, I > >really can't see how it would be very far off unless a shaft was bent > >between the hosel and the measurement point. Some have said it measures > >offset clubs incorrectly but once again I can see how offset would affect > >the measurement. Either way 2-3 degrees is a big difference-make sure your > >doing the + / - math right on the machine. > > > >Take care, > > > >GregZ > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scott Bershing > >Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 4:44 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: ShopTalk: Scotland vs. Measuring Gauge > > > > > >I've been playing around with taking measurements using both the Golfsmith > >Golf Club Gauge (model from a couple years ago) and the Scotland L&L >machine > >I recently purchased (roughly 6 years old). The Scotland lofts are based >on > >the older 'standard' of a 30° 5 iron, but doing the math is easy enough to > >measure the loft & lie. > > > >Lie measurements come in really close, or at least close enough that I >don't > >question either of them. The loft measurements are usually quite a bit > >different though. The GS gauge seems to average 2-3° stronger measurements > >in loft vs. the Scotland. I would guess that the GS gauge is inherently > >more accurate, but I'm questioning it at the moments as I've now assembled >3 > >sets of irons since having both. All three sets measure strong across the > >board according to the GS gauge, but are almost all dead on according to >the > >Scotland. I'm not so much worried about having each one dead on spec, but > >I'd like them to all at least have an even loft progression of 4°, and I > >need to start somewhere. > > > >So, which do I believe? I thought I remember reading something about the > >Scotlands being off a little on their loft readings, so before I start > >bending, I'd like to get some direction on which reading to trust. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Scott > > > > > > >
