Re: ShopTalk: Again

[Bernie Baymiller]

George,   As I recall, the Apache PM-30i (now the MFS 30+) R1 was about 283 cpm raw. I found that 275 cpm was what I needed...picked up 10-15 yards in that much softening, and it still feels stiff to me. I'd guess the Powerflex FW-501 would play about 3 or 4 cpm softer than the R1 Apaches, but the profiles are obviously different so it's strictly a guess. Suggest you get a couple of shafts and try them out...at $6.95 for singles, you can't lose much. Since it's an R/S combo shaft, you have plenty of room to stiffen it.   That Pro Perimeter head is a good bargain for an inexpensive set, too. I was hitting the set very well again today. Missed two greens with full iron shots today...one an easy 7-iron that I pulled 15 feet left of the pin into a Bermuda grass bunker...had to chunk it out and DB'd the hole 3-putting from 12 feet. :-( The other was another 7-iron I hit dead at, but 20 feet short of a front-side pin and chipped up for a gimmee. Our greens have just been aerated and I had trouble with the putter all day...3 three-putt greens and a 78 that could easily have been a 73 if the swingee had been a little smarter...had maybe 6 birdie putts under 15 feet and only made one on the second hole. The manufactured quality of these heads is certainly not as good as Wishon's, but comparable to GW CER series and some of GS stuff. The design is clean and the heads play as well as any. For an addicted clubmaker like me who likes to try new stuff several times a year, heads and shafts like these make it possible and affordable.   I'll send you my set record table and pic of the head privately. If you have Microsoft Word, you can open it OK.   Bernie Writeto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]     ----- Original Message ----- From: George Huson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 5:26 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Again Bernie, I  need to build a low cost set of irons for travel. I was going to order the apache mfs 30+, this powerflex sounds too good to be true.  I normally play the R-1 in Apache's old spec's. how do you think this shaft will play without soft stepping it. George Huson Bernie Baymiller wrote: Don,   SK Fiber makes very good shafts, though I haven't tried the Tri-Tec. I use the Pure Energy A for most of my long drivers. Here's an iron shaft option, if you want to experiment...   I found an inexpensive graphite shaft which seems to play as well as my old $15 Apache PM-30i A-2 shafts. It's a Hireko proprietary filament wound Powerflex FW-501 combo R/S iron shaft (I'm using the R softstepped one club with a 3/8" slope), spec'd at 88 grams, but is actually 81-82 grams (same weight as my Apaches), torque 3.0...about where I like it. Consistency shaft-to-shaft was quite good on my NF2, with a spread of only .023" for ten shafts, all readings taken on the NBP...or a little less than 5 cpm, I think. Seven of the shafts has spines less than 2 cpm and the other three were .013", .015" and .016", or a little less than 3 to a hair more than 3 cpm. Cost is $6.30 each/10 shaft quantity. Tip sensitivity was .026"/inch, or about 5 cpm. These shafts have a profile that feels a little heavier than many graphites the same weight...which is a feature I like because it stabilizes my swing on the short irons. Impact feels very solid and shaft action is smooth. Played three rounds with them and had three straight 77s...if I could putt, they would have been 74s or less. :-)   Used Pro Perimeter heads ($6.95) with these shafts, very clean looking cavity backs with low offset, and used Hireko's Soft Tread grips ($1, like a Softee). Swingweight across the assembled 3-PW set was D2.9 to D3.5, or .6 of a point spread (except for SW at D4.7, which I wanted heavier). Also, tried the NBP-COG alignment, which seems to result in a very straight ball flight (though most of these shafts really didn't need any particular alignment). Club length is standard graphite lengths. Component cost about $15 a club. Time will tell, but these might be my "cheapo" iron success of the year.   Bernie Writeto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]     ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Flatgard To: shoptalk Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 6:58 PM Subject: ShopTalk: Again Can anybody recommend something better then SK Fiber Tri-Tec iron shafts?