Along this line, the current trend with composites among the tour players is 
definately toward more flexible (and somewhat lower bend point) shafts that are very 
low torque.  I want to say that Gary Adams was the first to explore this in a retail 
club with the shafts in the original McHenry Metals drivers, but they may have been 
others before him.....  

Basically, it appears that the flexpoint and frequency are much more related to the 
feel of the shaft, and the torque may somewhat effect feel but much more manifests 
itself in the dispersion of the finished club.

Pat K
> 
> From: Dave Tutelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/10/02 Thu AM 09:51:44 EDT
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: FUJIKURA PRO VISTA 60
> 
> At 07:05 AM 10/2/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >...the torque in relationship to relative stiffness or frequency is a 
> >fitting variable that is often overlooked when fitting a shaft to an 
> >individual. If we are talking frequency which only tells you half a story, 
> >a 250 cpm shaft @ 2 degrees of torque will feel and perform different than 
> >a 250 cpm shaft @ 5 degrees of torque. Tom Wishon had a chart that had a 
> >relationship between swing speed torque and frequency with adjustments for 
> >frequency to torque relation a very useful tool for adjustments.
> 
> Charlie,
> I don't remember ever seeing this curve -- explicitly anyway. Where did you 
> see it?
> 
> That is not to say that Tom didn't implicitly give us all the info for the 
> curve. In fact, he has published the info at least twice that I know of.
> 
>   * In 1991, he and Jeff Summitt co-authored the book "Modern Guide to 
> Shaft Fitting". If you plot their DSFI formula, it relates frequency to 
> torque for the same subjective "stiffness".
> 
>   * In 1996, Tom's "Modern Clubfitting" book has a table of RSSR numbers 
> that can be similarly plotted.
> 
> When you plot both of them, you can see that he felt torque was less of a 
> factor in 1996 than he did in 1991. His view has been changing over time. 
> (That's not a bad thing. We live and learn. I certainly have learned a lot 
> about how golf clubs work in the last 5 years.)
> 
> Cheers!
> DaveT
> 
> 
> 

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