If you were to install a flat line set in the NF4 at a constant distance
from let's say the butt end of the club would the Nf4 record the same load
or a different load for each club?
Thanks.
André.


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From: "Dave Tutelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ShopTalk@mail.msen.com>
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Flatline vs frequency chart


> In the early 1970s, Joseph Braly was the chief
> scientist for Brunswick Shafts, which eventually
> became Royal Precision. He came up with the idea
> of frequency matching at that time, and ran a
> bunch of human-golfer tests to see what frequency
> really meant. The outcome of these tests was that
> different golfers perceived flex differently but,
> when the data was statistically processed, the
> best fit to a CONSTANT PERCEIVED FLEX was when
> the frequency was sloped. The slope Braly came up
> with was 8.6cpm per inch, with longer clubs
> wanting a lower frequency to be perceived as the same stiffness by the
golfer.
>
> Since that time, Precisions and Rifles have been
> built to 8.6cpm per inch (or 4.3 cpm per club at
> a half-inch length spacing across the irons). The
> other major shaft manufacturers had trim
> schedules that supported similar slopes. I don't
> know what the PCS "system" is, and would be
> interested to know if it endorses some particular
> slope, either explicitly or implicitly.
>
> There have been quite a few golfer tests since
> Braly's original experiments, and they almost
> always seem to come up with a similar result. The
> slopes are between 7 and 11cpm per inch for all
> tests that I've seen save one. That one was done
> by Eric Cook, founder of the Canadian company
> Swing-Sync. What they sell is constant-frequency
> matching, and that is what Cook's reported tests
> showed. I tend to discount his results because:
>          * Every other test I've seen comes up
> with a definitive, non-zero slope.
>          * I've read a bit of the test protocols
> for Cook's experiment, and feel it was biased to show a constant
frequency.
>          * Over a 40-year career, I've been close
> enough to instances of "sponsored research" to be
> suspicious of any study funded by Company XYZ
> whose outcome supports the product of Company XYZ.
>
> Anyway, that's how we got to where we are today.
>
> DaveT
>
> At 08:04 AM 8/25/2006, André Cantin wrote:
> >I was in the Canadian GW store yesterday and had a good conversation with
> >one of the managers who took the Rifle training before they went belly
up.
> >According to him a flat line(single frequency) set does not produce the
same
> >flex across the set. In his opinion the short irons are softer in flex
than
> >the long irons. Of course his statement is based on a frequency chart
where
> >the same frequency at a shorter length yields a softer flex. He also
> >believes that a shortened  club(leaving the tip as is) yields a softer
flex
> >as you are cutting away in the stiffest part of the shaft(butt section)
and
> >obviously just the opposite if you lengthen the club. I would like to
know
> >your opinion as I have read in many books that by shortening a club you
make
> >it stiffer. Swingweight is not part of the equation in this discussion. I
> >also have always thought a single frequency set yields the same flex
across
> >the set Thanks.
> >André.
>
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