On 6/8/07, John Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 07 June 2007, Simon Hobson wrote:
> > I think by now you'll have got the idea that I think there is nothing
> > positive about NAT
>
> NO, on the contrary, I see a lot of chest thumping and half baked
> fud having nothing at all to do with solving the OP's problem.
>
> Bridging a VMware guest machine requires the availability of
> a second IP and aliasing the nic.  Neither of these is always
> a solution, some times you are not allowed a second IP, and
> some wireless nics can't be bridged.
But the fundamental problem NAT is directed at is one that should be
fixed - not enough IPs.  Why doesn't your host give you a /24 block of
addresses with your current internet service?  There aren't enough to
go around.  IPv6 is (among other things) an attempt to fix that.

> So thanks for the tirade, (but No thanks, really) but its totally out of place
> on a list dealing with Shorewall, which is most often used to make
> firewalls using...  You guessed it, NAT.
That doesn't make NAT necessary or good.  It's simply that in most
cases there aren't enough IPs to go around.  If there were, NAT would
be (IMO) useless.

Will

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