On 13 May 2013, at 20:29, Jim Nelson <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ah -- something I didn't notice earlier: you're using an old version of 
> Shotwell.  The latest version (0.14.1) fixes numerous problems with RAW 
> support, including this issue.  I highly recommend upgrading from Yorba's 
> PPA: https://launchpad.net/~yorba/+archive/ppa

Thanks, Jim. That worked!

But it seems to be important to shut down Shotwell before deleting the 
Shotwell-generated JPGs, as images tend to be shoved into Missing Files.

One feature I didn't expect - the generation of replacement Shotwell-generated 
JPGs still occurs after Shotwell has been shut down. I had the Nautilus window 
open on a directory whose JPGs I'd just deleted, and was surprised to find it 
was being populated with new JPGs as I watched.

Michael

> 
> -- Jim
> 
> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Michael Hendry <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> 
>> On 13 May 2013, at 18:53, Jim Nelson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Those extra files are generated by Shotwell because decoding the .NEF file 
>>> (or any RAW file) takes a lot of CPU power and time.  Also, there's two 
>>> ways Shotwell can "develop" a RAW file: by decoding the file or using one 
>>> of its internal JPEG files.  Generally the internal JPEG file looks better 
>>> because the camera has tweaked it using various parameters (white point, 
>>> exposure, etc.)
>>> 
>>> If you delete those files, Shotwell will regenerate them when you next view 
>>> that file in Shotwell.  Note that the latest version of Shotwell (0.14) 
>>> will not generate so many of them; it's an old bug that caused all those 
>>> different versions to appear.
>>> 
>>> -- Jim
>>> 
>> 
>> Thanks, Jim.
>> 
>> I tried deleting the three JPG files accompanying DSC_8937.NEF, and the 
>> result was that DSC_8937.NEF became a "Missing File", according to Shotwell, 
>> and it disappeared from its event.
>> 
>> After half a minute or so, it appeared to move from Missing FIle to its 
>> event again, but double-clicking on it in its event window (to view it) 
>> resulting in its going back into the "Missing FIle" slot.
>> 
>> I tried dragging and dropping the file from its folder in the file system 
>> into Shotwell, and opted to leave it in place. The image duly reappeared in 
>> the relevant event, but no JPG file has been generated, and every time I 
>> double-click on it, it bounces back into the "Missing File" box.
>> 
>> At no time since I deleted the JPG files has a new one been generated in the 
>> relevant directory.
>> 
>> This is obviously not going to be as easy as I thought!
>> 
>> Could my difficulty have something to do with the fact that the images I'm 
>> dealing with were shot entirely in RAW mode (i.e. not RAW+JPG) on my Nikon 
>> D70?
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 2:14 AM, Michael Hendry <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Earlier this year I retired my elderly Dell PC running Ubuntu 12.04  in 
>>>> favour of a new iMac 27".
>>>> 
>>>> Virtually every application I was using on the Dell can be replaced with a 
>>>> Mac-compiled version, but I'm still running Shotwell in a virtual Ubuntu 
>>>> machine, storing all the images in a shared directory on the Mac.
>>>> 
>>>> I've found that I've got a number of JPG versions of NEF files I'd 
>>>> previously uploaded to the Ubuntu machine, and the migrated to the Mac, 
>>>> for example:
>>>> 
>>>> DSC_8937.NEF is accompanied by
>>>> DSC_8937_NEF_embedded.jpg
>>>> DSC_8937_NEF_shotwell_1.jpg and
>>>> DSC_8937_NEF_shotwell.jpg
>>>> 
>>>> I'm currently using Shotwell 0.12.3 with Ubuntu 12.04 in a Parallels VM.
>>>> 
>>>> Is it safe to delete any or all of these Shotwell-generated JPGs?
>>>> 
>>>> Will Shotwell generate a new JPG version if all that's left in a directory 
>>>> is the raw NEF file? Or does it only generate this on the initial import?
>>>> 
>>>> I don't _need_ the extra space at the moment, but I'd like to dispose of 
>>>> an unnecessary overhead and reduce back-up requirements if I can.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> 
>>>> Michael
>>>> 
>>>> 
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