On 14 May 2013, at 23:25, Michael Hendry <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 13 May 2013, at 20:29, Jim Nelson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Ah -- something I didn't notice earlier: you're using an old version of >> Shotwell. The latest version (0.14.1) fixes numerous problems with RAW >> support, including this issue. I highly recommend upgrading from Yorba's >> PPA: https://launchpad.net/~yorba/+archive/ppa > > Thanks, Jim. That worked! > > But it seems to be important to shut down Shotwell before deleting the > Shotwell-generated JPGs, as images tend to be shoved into Missing Files. > > One feature I didn't expect - the generation of replacement > Shotwell-generated JPGs still occurs after Shotwell has been shut down. I had > the Nautilus window open on a directory whose JPGs I'd just deleted, and was > surprised to find it was being populated with new JPGs as I watched. > > Michael > I've been working my way through, deleting the additional files, and noticed that some directories have NEF files without corresponding JPG files. I've tried shutting down Shotwell and deleting these files (in case they'd been left behind), but they're recreated when I start Shotwell again. Michaels-iMac:29 michaelhendry$ ls DSC_6713.NEF DSC_6730.NEF DSC_6747.NEF DSC_6764.NEF DSC_6779_NEF_shotwell.jpg DSC_6714.NEF DSC_6731.NEF DSC_6748.NEF DSC_6765.NEF DSC_6780.NEF DSC_6715.NEF DSC_6732.NEF DSC_6749.NEF DSC_6766.NEF DSC_6780_NEF_shotwell.jpg DSC_6716.NEF DSC_6733.NEF DSC_6750.NEF DSC_6767.NEF DSC_6781.NEF DSC_6717.NEF DSC_6734.NEF DSC_6751.NEF DSC_6768.NEF DSC_6781_NEF_shotwell.jpg DSC_6718.NEF DSC_6735.NEF DSC_6752.NEF DSC_6769.NEF DSC_6782.NEF DSC_6719.NEF DSC_6736.NEF DSC_6753.NEF DSC_6770.NEF DSC_6782_NEF_shotwell.jpg DSC_6720.NEF DSC_6737.NEF DSC_6754.NEF DSC_6771.NEF DSC_6783.NEF DSC_6721.NEF DSC_6738.NEF DSC_6755.NEF DSC_6772.NEF DSC_6784.NEF DSC_6722.NEF DSC_6739.NEF DSC_6756.NEF DSC_6773.NEF DSC_6784_NEF_shotwell.jpg DSC_6723.NEF DSC_6740.NEF DSC_6757.NEF DSC_6774.NEF DSC_6785.NEF DSC_6724.NEF DSC_6741.NEF DSC_6758.NEF DSC_6775.NEF DSC_6786.NEF DSC_6725.NEF DSC_6742.NEF DSC_6759.NEF DSC_6776.NEF DSC_6786_NEF_shotwell.jpg DSC_6726.NEF DSC_6743.NEF DSC_6760.NEF DSC_6777.NEF DSC_6727.NEF DSC_6744.NEF DSC_6761.NEF DSC_6778.NEF DSC_6728.NEF DSC_6745.NEF DSC_6762.NEF DSC_6778_NEF_shotwell.jpg DSC_6729.NEF DSC_6746.NEF DSC_6763.NEF DSC_6779.NEF Michaels-iMac:29 michaelhendry$ Although all the above images were taken at a single event (a wedding), the majority are said to have been Developed by the Camera, and the remainder (those with JPGs) by Shotwell. I can't see any obvious reason why Shotwell (set in Preferences as the default developer) shouldn't have developed all of the images. There's probably some simple explanation… Michael >> >> -- Jim >> >> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Michael Hendry <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> On 13 May 2013, at 18:53, Jim Nelson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Those extra files are generated by Shotwell because decoding the .NEF file >>>> (or any RAW file) takes a lot of CPU power and time. Also, there's two >>>> ways Shotwell can "develop" a RAW file: by decoding the file or using one >>>> of its internal JPEG files. Generally the internal JPEG file looks better >>>> because the camera has tweaked it using various parameters (white point, >>>> exposure, etc.) >>>> >>>> If you delete those files, Shotwell will regenerate them when you next >>>> view that file in Shotwell. Note that the latest version of Shotwell >>>> (0.14) will not generate so many of them; it's an old bug that caused all >>>> those different versions to appear. >>>> >>>> -- Jim >>>> >>> >>> Thanks, Jim. >>> >>> I tried deleting the three JPG files accompanying DSC_8937.NEF, and the >>> result was that DSC_8937.NEF became a "Missing File", according to >>> Shotwell, and it disappeared from its event. >>> >>> After half a minute or so, it appeared to move from Missing FIle to its >>> event again, but double-clicking on it in its event window (to view it) >>> resulting in its going back into the "Missing FIle" slot. >>> >>> I tried dragging and dropping the file from its folder in the file system >>> into Shotwell, and opted to leave it in place. The image duly reappeared in >>> the relevant event, but no JPG file has been generated, and every time I >>> double-click on it, it bounces back into the "Missing File" box. >>> >>> At no time since I deleted the JPG files has a new one been generated in >>> the relevant directory. >>> >>> This is obviously not going to be as easy as I thought! >>> >>> Could my difficulty have something to do with the fact that the images I'm >>> dealing with were shot entirely in RAW mode (i.e. not RAW+JPG) on my Nikon >>> D70? >>> >>> Michael >>> >>> >>>> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 2:14 AM, Michael Hendry <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Earlier this year I retired my elderly Dell PC running Ubuntu 12.04 in >>>>> favour of a new iMac 27". >>>>> >>>>> Virtually every application I was using on the Dell can be replaced with >>>>> a Mac-compiled version, but I'm still running Shotwell in a virtual >>>>> Ubuntu machine, storing all the images in a shared directory on the Mac. >>>>> >>>>> I've found that I've got a number of JPG versions of NEF files I'd >>>>> previously uploaded to the Ubuntu machine, and the migrated to the Mac, >>>>> for example: >>>>> >>>>> DSC_8937.NEF is accompanied by >>>>> DSC_8937_NEF_embedded.jpg >>>>> DSC_8937_NEF_shotwell_1.jpg and >>>>> DSC_8937_NEF_shotwell.jpg >>>>> >>>>> I'm currently using Shotwell 0.12.3 with Ubuntu 12.04 in a Parallels VM. >>>>> >>>>> Is it safe to delete any or all of these Shotwell-generated JPGs? >>>>> >>>>> Will Shotwell generate a new JPG version if all that's left in a >>>>> directory is the raw NEF file? Or does it only generate this on the >>>>> initial import? >>>>> >>>>> I don't _need_ the extra space at the moment, but I'd like to dispose of >>>>> an unnecessary overhead and reduce back-up requirements if I can. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance, >>>>> >>>>> Michael >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Shotwell mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell >>> > _______________________________________________ Shotwell mailing list [email protected] http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell
