As the list knows by now, Owen and I don't always see eye to eye, but
on this we are agreed.

I'd like to go further however...

It would be easy to assume that Randy's considerable contributions to
the global Internet community are all in the past.  This however could
not be further from the truth.  Randy continues to be actively
involved in a great number of projects which provide direct benefit to
current and future users of the Internet.  I have the pleasure of
working with Randy on a number of these projects and the thing they
all have in common is that Randy doesn't feel the need to place
himself in the spotlight.  In fact quite the opposite; Randy would
never want his profile to be higher than that of the organisation he
is assisting.

This assistance spans the gamut from ensuring individuals from
underrepresented groups can access mentoring, training and knowledge
transfer opportunities to designing and deploying Internet
infrastructure projects which assist entire economies to benefit from
increased Internet access.

Suffice to say that in contrast to the statement that Randy is
negative, pessimistic, sour and arrogant.  I have witnessed his work
in projects where he continues to show positivity, optimism,
enthusiasm and humility.

Do not judge a person by a single act, but by the balanced sum of
their actions.  If Randy chooses not to spend his time and efforts
within the APNIC community then that is both his choice, and this
community's loss.

Regards
Dean




On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 6:34 AM, Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com> wrote:
> Skeeve.
>
> First: +1 to what you have said below, except.
>
> In the past (rapidly becoming the distant past), Randy provided a lot of
> service to this and several other internet communities. He was a talented
> engineer and helped to solve many problems. There was a time when his
> commitment to the community matched his arrogance, pessimism, and hostility.
> Sadly, it seems that all that is left is the arrogance, pessimism, and
> hostility.
>
> I was never Randy's greatest fan and he was certainly never mine. However, I
> do think it is important to recognize the contributions he has made, in
> spite of his best efforts to obscure them behind his current behavior.
>
> Owen
>
> On Sep 20, 2014, at 04:20 , Masato Yamanishi <myama...@japan-telecom.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Andy and SIG members,
>
> I'm very sorry to hear your resignation, but I would like to express our
> appreciation for your service, in particular for last 3 years as Policy SIG
> Chair and NRO NC, on behalf of the community.
>
> SIG members>
> Please join me in thanking Andy for his great chairmanship and excellent
> cooperation work.
>
> Masato Yamanishi
> Policy SIG co-chair
>
> Sep 19, 2014 10:18 PM、Andy Linton <a...@lpnz.org> のメッセージ:
>
> I've decided to stand down as chair of the APNIC Policy SIG. I'm doing this
> for a number of reasons which I'll go into in this mail. I was not able to
> attend APNIC38 as I am currently in the UK but to be honest even if I'd been
> in New Zealand I'm not sure that I would have made the trip to Brisbane.
>
> Several meetings ago Randy Bush put a proposal in front of the Policy SIG
> suggesting that the time had come to abandon the making of policy in the
> current form. I chaired the session that discussed this matter. We had a
> session which ended in confusion and acrimony and the debate ended at that
> point.
>
> I will say that while Randy and I disagreed over the mechanism of how to
> disband/radically change the current process, I am in full support of the
> core idea proposed in prop-103. I believe the current process is failing the
> community and it should be wound up and replaced with some other mechanism.
>
> At APNIC38, my colleague Masato Yamanashi was returned unopposed as co-chair
> and I am confident that he will handle the role of Chair until the meeting
> in Fukuoka next February where the community can decide if they want to
> continue with the current mechanism or not. My resignation now will give
> plenty of time for any debate on this.
>
> I believe that we are now at the stage where we are having a face to face
> meeting of the Policy SIG mainly to validate the legitimacy of having a
> meeting of APNIC every six months. There's little of substance that couldn't
> be discussed on line and there are very few people taking part in debate on
> address policy because there is really very little to discuss.
>
> I believe that APNIC's job is and should continue to be a registry with a
> lightweight structure. I believe APNIC has changed into a quasi political
> body that spends vast amounts of time and money travelling to Internet
> Governance meetings where they meet other similar entities and they all tell
> each other what a fabulous job they're doing of governing the Internet.
>
> You may agree with them doing that - that's fine. I don't and I think it's
> time for me to step aside and let them get on with it. You could say I
> should stay and help to try to fix things but I simply don't have the time
> or enthusiasm.
>
> I can do no better that quote from a paper from Milton Mueller: Stewardship
> and the Management of Internet Protocol Addresses
> (www.internetgovernance.org/pdf/CyberDialogue2012_Mueller.pdf). I don't
> agree with everything Mueller says but this encapsulates the problem very
> well:
>
> "But here we face the exact same problem as before: all reforms in IP
> address governance structure must come from the RIRs themselves. The ASO of
> ICANN is nothing more than the NRO, and the NRO is nothing more than a
> combination of the staff and CEOs of the RIRs. And why would the RIRs
> initiate or institute reforms that would put themselves out of business? The
> RIRs have many merits as organizations, but they are also quite entrenched,
> with tens of millions of dollars in annual revenues, a growing number of
> jobs, and an important place for their managers in the overall Internet
> governance regime. If this structure is to be dramatically changed, the
> impetus will not and cannot come from the RIRs themselves."
>
> I'd like to thank all those in the community who I've worked with over the
> years. I count very many of you as friends and I'm sure we'll catch up
> sometime in the future.
>
> andy
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