Dear Christopher,

Apologies that initial reading made me think that the proposal is to remove
WhoiS information.

However, even if we consider it is for the bulk data, with the data
provided by Vivek of 400 entities signing the agreement with APNIC  to have
access to this data so far and  one  known case of abuse  (which was then
acted upon), the issue does not seem so grave that  it needs to be
considered for a policy change,  at least for now.

Regards

Amrita

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 3:30 AM Christopher Hawker <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Good morning Amrita,
>
> I am yet to hear of one organisation, that accepts support requests
> through Abuse, IRT or Network Operations contacts listed in the Whois
> database. If the organisation is large enough they will have separate
> support teams for customers and network operations engineers who perform
> two different functions in a business and where they are small enough that
> the same team runs both areas, they may have the same contact information
> for both purposes (support and NOC).
>
> What would be a use case for a law enforcement organisation to retrieve
> contact information for network operators in bulk? If it's in relation to a
> technical matter they'd be able to retrieve contact information from either
> the Whois website or by accessing the Whois server directly on port 43.
>
> I can not think of a reason why an organisation would need to download
> contact information in bulk, so if you are privy to anything which I am
> not, please do share.
>
> Regards,
> Christopher Hawker
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