Hi,
I support the proposal, specifically with Aftab's proposed amendment to
expand the scope reduction even further.
As for Philip's idea of adding a bulk-marked option, I don't think
that's ideal given what the proposal seeks to do.
If you're restricting the contact data, I think do just that. Legitimate
info seekers will remain able to find said info.
Retaining physical address and telephone in bulk data makes sense, as
the likelihood of spamming is far lower. :)
Many thanks,
Luke Thompson, CTO
The Network Crew P/L
E: [email protected]
https://tnc.works
On 13/1/2025 3:02 pm, Bertrand Cherrier via SIG-policy wrote:
Dear SIG members,
A new proposal "prop-162-v001: WHOIS Privacy" has been sent to the
Policy SIG for review.
It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting (OPM) at APNIC 59 on
Wednesday, 26 February 2025.
https://conference.apnic.net/59/programme/programme/index.html#/day/8/
We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing
list before the OPM.
The comment period on the mailing list before the OPM is an important
part of the Policy Development Process (PDP). We encourage you to
express your views on the proposal:
- Do you support or oppose this proposal?
- Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If so,
tell the community about your situation.
- Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?
- Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
- What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more effective?
Information about this proposal is appended below as well as available at:
http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-162
Regards,
Bertrand, Shaila, and Ching-Heng
APNIC Policy SIG Chairs
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prop-162-v001: WHOIS Privacy
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Proposer:
Jonathan Brewer ([email protected])
1. Problem statement
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Through permitted bulk access to APNIC whois, several organisations
including Hurricane Electric and RecordedFuture republish physical
addresses, email addresses, and telephone numbers of APNIC members.
These details are freely available on the web and available for mass
harvesting through the use of screen scraping technology. It is
apparent that some third parties have used this data in a manner
contrary to the APNIC whois data acceptable use agreement.
In the past three years organisations including the Number Resource
Society (Casablanca, Morocco), Unique IP Solutions (Faisalabad,
Pakistan), Aileron IT (Wisconsin, USA), and EarnheardData (details
suppressed) have contacted my organisation via details published
exclusively in APNIC whois. None of these contacts have been to do
with a legitimate networking issue.
2. Objective of policy change
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This policy will eliminate the unnecessary publication of APNIC member
organisation contact details. People with a legitimate need for these
contact details can use a service directly provided by APNIC to obtain
them.
3. Situation in other regions
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Unknown
4. Proposed policy solution
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APNIC should remove all email addresses, telephone numbers, and
physical addresses from any bulk WHOIS data, and should cause any
existing re-publishers of APNIC WHOIS data to remove this information
from the Internet as a condition for continued access to data.
5. Advantages / Disadvantages
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Advantages:
This should reduce future marketing calls to the NOC phone and
marketing emails to the noc email address.
Disadvantages:
None. The information will still be available via APNIC-controlled
WHOIS services which presumably are protected against illegitimate
data harvesting.
6. Impact on resource holders
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No impact on resource holders.
7. References
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