: Daniel Brown wrote on Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 09:49:08PM -0500:
> On Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 08:47:15PM -0500, Daniel Katz wrote:
> > : Shahid I Malik wrote on Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 03:25:39PM -0500:
> > > i have swbell dsl.  service is fine never any outages, i hear techsupport really 
>sucks but i have never needed to call it.  the one thing that sucks is that its 
>pppoe.  but if you use a router like i am then its just like using dhcp...  i get 
>like 135-150 downloading and uploading is 15kbs.  if you are uploading every computer 
>on your lan will be horribly slow (the shared net connection).  if im uploading and 
>want to browse www pages its like modem speed.  
> > 
> > Unlike Shahid, I have the ability to press enter at least every 72
> > columns. (grr)
> > 
> > Anyway, I live in the same complex as Shahid and I monitor the
> > performance a little bit more carefully.  Over the last six months
> > we've had three outages.  One for more than a couple hours.  When
> > calling SWB tech support I got a recorded message saying:
> > 
> > "We are currently aware for outages in the 
> > following areas {..pause..}  TEXAS".
> > 
> > I found much amusement in that.  Other than that service is good.
> > It's not as good as what they claim it to be.
> > 
> > I *HIGHLY* suggest getting a newer router with QoS (Quailty of
> > Service) capabilities if you're planning on sharing the 
> > line at all.  
> > 
> > My roommate and I will have incredible latency problems (in the 
> > arena of 200+ms to SWB's servers (worse to UT Campus) 
> > (Ref: 28.8 modems get ~120) if one of us is running something like 
> > AudioGalaxy (RIP) or Kazaa and downloading at <15K/s.
> > 
> > All in all they've got pretty good service.  
> 
> with full uploads running (cable, 40-50k/s), my ping rests anywhere
> between 700 and 1200 ms. QoS might be the ticket that i heard on irc (as
> opposed to the aforementioned fair queueing)
> 

QoS RULES the school..

You can set very simple traffic balancing such as:  If a Nth user starts
using traffic, make sure he has at least 1/N potential bandwidth.  

You can also limit machines and set other machines to have higher
priorities.

All the 'newer' routers coming out have some QoS.  I wouldn't go out and
buy a Cisco 2600 series anytime soon though.

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