On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Michael Specht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Why not get behind the existing efforts?
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> http://nocleanfeed.com/
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> http://petitions.takingitglobal.org/oznetcensorship
>

I agree and think we should support the EFA's efforts.
 However nocleanfeed's petition links to the one above, and in my eyes,
that's not an effective one to get the point across. It needs to be state
based to indicate that voters will threaten their representatives position
in the future, rather than a lump all.

For a petition to mean anything, its needs to be targeted.


>  *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Elias Bizannes
> *Sent:* Monday, 27 October 2008 4:38 PM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [SiliconBeach] Re: ISP filtering
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>
>
> Anyone want to suggest wording for an online petition? Nice and easy thing
> we can start now, until all our contacts and other ideas come into play.
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> My first go, but not sure if this is too drastic that will reduce support
> from people.
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>
>
> "I am a voter in the State of [state specific petition], and I am outraged
> by the actions of the Rudd Government to adopt the Clean Feed. I will
> support efforts that prevent the adoption of the policy, including voting
> against current representatives who vote in support of the policy."
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> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Nick Holmes a Court <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
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> I've emailed Charles Firth at the Chaser and am awaing a reply :)
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> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Michael Specht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Hi,
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> I just got off my arse and did something, emailed a friend of mine about
> this shitty plan. He happens to be the Member for Werriwa and the Whip,
> Chris Hayes. While I don't expect much at least it is another email.
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> Rgds
>
> Michael
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Pat Allan
> *Sent:* Monday, 27 October 2008 3:33 PM
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>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [SiliconBeach] Re: ISP filtering
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>
>
> While several of us have sent Conroy letters, has anyone met with him in
> person? Or their local Labor rep (if you're in a Labor seat - otherwise,
> find a Senator for your State)? Gotta mix the web activism with offline
> interactions.
>
>
>
> As for the Libs, sounds like Minchin isn't all that positive about the
> plan, which is promising...
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>
>
> --
>
> Pat
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> On 27/10/2008, at 11:17 AM, Warren Seen wrote:
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> Speaking of Fielding:
> http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2008/10/27/1224955916155.html
>
> To make things worse, Nick Xenophon (another senator in that group that
> hold the balance of power) seems to think that he's going to EXTEND the
> filter to cover online gambling sites overseas. Now, correct me if I'm
> wrong, but isn't that an entirely legal use of the Internet? And so it
> begins...
>
> So we're left with the Greens, and scratching around to find a Labor
> faction with enough guts to stand up in caucus. Has anything changed with
> the libs stance on the issue under Turnbull's leadership? Seems to me that
> when you start talking about blocking legitimate business interests
> overseas, those based in Australia (eg Betfair) should worry that they'll be
> next.
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> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Gary Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
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> Okay then why not lobby the factions within the Labor party to get
> Conroy to bury this crusade.  If you get  right   factions stirred up
> this really can have an effect.
>
> I bet there are people on this list with at least contacts into these
> factions.
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> Warren Seen wrote:
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> > Lobbying the "Family First" Senator Fielding to vote against internet
> > filtering? That sounds like a new definition of futility :-)
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Gary Barber <gary.barber.au
>
> > <http://gary.barber.au>@gmail.com <http://gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >     If this is the case then we should be lobbying the relevant greens
> and
> >     Fielding hard, and making damn sure they vote against it.  Making
> sure
> >     their are no other issues they have in the pipeline that labor can
> >     leverage to win their vote.
> >
> >     --
> >     Gary Barber
> >     Freelance User Interaction Designer/ Information Architect
> >
>
> >     Web: radharc.com.au <http://radharc.com.au>
> >     blog: manwithnoblog.com <http://manwithnoblog.com>
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> >
> >
> >
> >     Pat Allan wrote:
> >     > Another possible action to add to the list: Contact your ISP, tell
> >     > them you you'll switch to someone else if they take part in
> Conroy's
> >     > trial. I just told iiNet that by twitter. No idea if that'll filter
> >     > through, so I really should send them an email at the very least.
> >     >
> >     > Also, for those looking for some hope: at this stage (ie: unless
> the
> >     > gov calls a double dissolution), Labor need both the Greens and
> >     > Stephen Fielding of Family First to agree on the policy. Greens
> have
> >     > been strongly against it (and rarely agree with Fielding), so
> >     perhaps
> >     > we're safe, at least until another election.
> >     >
> >     >
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> --
> Gary Barber
> Freelance User Interaction Designer/ Information Architect
>
> Web: radharc.com.au
> blog: manwithnoblog.com
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> --
> Elias Bizannes
> http://liako.biz
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