Agreed. Media will drum this up if they are getting pageviews and will then make it bigger.
Sent from my iPhone On 29/10/2008, at 1:11 PM, "Michael Specht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is lots of discussion here, and on Twitter about the filtering > however the issue is starting to hit mainstream, make sure you also > comment on these sites so the editors see this is a real issue that > needs more discussion with the community. > > > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected] > ] On Behalf Of Sriram Panyam > Sent: Wednesday, 29 October 2008 12:42 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SiliconBeach] Re: ISP filtering > > > > Hi All, > > I was wondering if we are overlooking corporations? What does > corporate australia (CA) gain or loose (monetarily ofcourse) from > the filtering? Why is there silence from CA? How about publishing/ > emphasising the economic/monetary effects of the filtering on both > corporates as well as individuals (80% reduction and hence a much > lower value for money being the most obvious one)? > > Cheers > Sri > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Mark Neely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Elias, > > > > This kind of approach is very rarely successful. > > > > There is not a single software-based Internet filter/blocker (e.g. > NetNanny etc.) that has not been proven to be easily defeated by the > very people (i.e. kids) they are designed to protect. That hasn't > stopped various governments and education organisations from > mandating their use. > > > > On the broader front, whenever there is a new security measure of > any kind (e.g. airport security), there is always a couple of > journalists who will develop a story about how they managed to > defeat the new measures. It makes for a few days of sensationalist > headlines, the relevant body says they will investigate, and then > the issue just disappears. > > > > Also, demonstrating how a proposed security measure can be defeated > can have negative consequences. First, it just hardens the position > of those who advocate it. Second, it will demonstrate for some > people why those very same measures are needed ('Gee, if a bunch of > journos can smuggle a gun on board the plane for a joke, imagine > what some highly-motivated, highly-trained terrorists could smuggle > aboard! Maybe the government isn't doing enough!'). > > > > Rather than demonstrate how the control measures would not work, a > better form of demonstration would be to give people a very real > taste of just how they *could* work. Demonstrate Search Engines with > only limited results. Social networks with censored images and > conversations. Educational resources that have large slabs of > historic 'fact' removed because it goes against the official > government views of the day. Blogs with no readers because the topic > is not sanctioned. Artistic sites now blocked etc. > > > > Helping people to understand just how these measures would impact > their daily lives, and encouraging them to make their concerns known > to regulators and politicians, is the best way to ensure the > government doesn't overstep the will of the community. > > > > Regards, > > > > Mark > > > > ----- > > Mark Neely > > Master Strategist > > Infolution Pty Ltd > > 'Beyond Strategy. Leading Change' > > > > e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > m: +61 (0)412 0417 29 > skype: mark.neely > > > > Read my blogs --> www.infolution.com.au > > www.neelyready.com > > Connect on LinkedIn --> www.linkedin.com/in/markneely > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected] > ] On Behalf Of Elias Bizannes > Sent: Sunday, 26 October 2008 11:14 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SiliconBeach] Re: ISP filtering > > That's a brillaint idea Pat - showing how ineffective the controls > would be, in a vocal way :) > > > > I've got some contacts in Iran and they could help us broadcast how > these 'repressed' people get away with things. It would be a good > way to compare the approach to an authoritarian government, whilst > at the same time showing how ineffective they are. > > > > We could also put together short clips having people explain how > easy it is to circumvent as well as working examples of > exploitations of the holes. > > > > Whilst we can make this content targeted at the public to create > awareness, I also (as I am sure others) got some labour hack mates, > who can ensure that our work is distributed to the right people > within the party. And certainly, I've got some Liberal hack mates > who would love to get behind this for the sake of creating a wedge > issue. > > > > Clearly, English doesn't work in the form of letters and e-mails > that we have sent to these short-sighted, opportunistic, moronic > arse-wipe politicians. Maybe it's time we try another tactic: flat > out embaressment, with a touch of crowd sourcing and a tad of social > media distribution. At worst, we have a laugh and let the public > know our industry is alive and kicking. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Blog: http://panyam.wordpress.com > URL: http://www.geocities.com/spany_1 > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Silicon Beach Australia" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/silicon-beach-australia?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
