I wonder if it could be considered "unconstitutional"? Does anyone here happen to have extensive knowledge in that feild?
Ash On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Elias Bizannes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Agreed. Media will drum this up if they are getting pageviews and will then > make it bigger. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 29/10/2008, at 1:11 PM, "Michael Specht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is lots of discussion here, and on Twitter about the filtering > however the issue is starting to hit mainstream, make sure you also comment > on these sites so the editors see this is a real issue that needs more > discussion with the community. > > > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] > *On Behalf Of *Sriram Panyam > *Sent:* Wednesday, 29 October 2008 12:42 PM > *To:* <[email protected]> > [email protected] > *Subject:* [SiliconBeach] Re: ISP filtering > > > > Hi All, > > I was wondering if we are overlooking corporations? What does corporate > australia (CA) gain or loose (monetarily ofcourse) from the filtering? Why > is there silence from CA? How about publishing/emphasising the > economic/monetary effects of the filtering on both corporates as well as > individuals (80% reduction and hence a much lower value for money being the > most obvious one)? > > Cheers > Sri > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Mark Neely < <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Elias, > > > > This kind of approach is very rarely successful. > > > > There is not a single software-based Internet filter/blocker (e.g. NetNanny > etc.) that has not been proven to be easily defeated by the very people > (i.e. kids) they are designed to protect. That hasn't stopped various > governments and education organisations from mandating their use. > > > > On the broader front, whenever there is a new security measure of any kind > (e.g. airport security), there is always a couple of journalists who will > develop a story about how they managed to defeat the new measures. It makes > for a few days of sensationalist headlines, the relevant body says they will > investigate, and then the issue just disappears. > > > > Also, demonstrating how a proposed security measure can be defeated can > have negative consequences. First, it just hardens the position of those who > advocate it. Second, it will demonstrate for some people why those very same > measures are needed ('Gee, if a bunch of journos can smuggle a gun on board > the plane for a joke, imagine what some highly-motivated, highly-trained > terrorists could smuggle aboard! Maybe the government isn't doing enough!'). > > > > Rather than demonstrate how the control measures would not work, a better > form of demonstration would be to give people a very real taste of just how > they *could* work. Demonstrate Search Engines with only limited results. > Social networks with censored images and conversations. Educational > resources that have large slabs of historic 'fact' removed because it goes > against the official government views of the day. Blogs with no readers > because the topic is not sanctioned. Artistic sites now blocked etc. > > > > Helping people to understand just how these measures would impact their > daily lives, and encouraging them to make their concerns known to regulators > and politicians, is the best way to ensure the government doesn't overstep > the will of the community. > > > > Regards, > > > > Mark > > > > ----- > > Mark Neely > > Master Strategist > > Infolution Pty Ltd > > 'Beyond Strategy. Leading Change' > > > > e: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > m: +61 (0)412 0417 29 > skype: mark.neely > > > > Read my blogs --> <http://www.infolution.com.au/>www.infolution.com.au > > <http://www.neelyready.com/> > www.neelyready.com > > Connect on LinkedIn --> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/markneely> > www.linkedin.com/in/markneely > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* <[email protected]> > [email protected] > [mailto:<[email protected]> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Elias Bizannes > *Sent:* Sunday, 26 October 2008 11:14 PM > *To:* <[email protected]> > [email protected] > *Subject:* [SiliconBeach] Re: ISP filtering > > That's a brillaint idea Pat - showing how ineffective the controls would > be, in a vocal way :) > > > > I've got some contacts in Iran and they could help us broadcast how these > 'repressed' people get away with things. It would be a good way to compare > the approach to an authoritarian government, whilst at the same time showing > how ineffective they are. > > > > We could also put together short clips having people explain how easy it > is to circumvent as well as working examples of exploitations of the holes. > > > > Whilst we can make this content targeted at the public to create awareness, > I also (as I am sure others) got some labour hack mates, who can ensure that > our work is distributed to the right people within the party. And certainly, > I've got some Liberal hack mates who would love to get behind this for the > sake of creating a wedge issue. > > > > Clearly, English doesn't work in the form of letters and e-mails that we > have sent to these short-sighted, opportunistic, moronic arse-wipe > politicians. Maybe it's time we try another tactic: flat out embaressment, > with a touch of crowd sourcing and a tad of social media distribution. At > worst, we have a laugh and let the public know our industry is alive and > kicking. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Blog: <http://panyam.wordpress.com>http://panyam.wordpress.com > URL: <http://www.geocities.com/spany_1>http://www.geocities.com/spany_1 > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Silicon Beach Australia" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/silicon-beach-australia?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
