I suspect another googlegroup would die the same silent deaths the the others have.
I seem to remember some one setup http:///www.snowballer.com.au for just this. why not just pointer on the footer, something like.. For jobs => www.snowballer.com.au (plus any site that provides free listings) - I'm not associated with that site by the way. On 1 February 2011 16:59, David Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > I'd propose another google group for jobs BUT also an advertisement in > the bottom of this email next to the guidelines. > > A while back the [email protected] was > spun out, it got very little traffic but it might have got more > interest if people here were aware of it. If the footer did refer to > other affiliated groups that might help build sub-communities of > interest. > > If its a google group then each user/rockstar/ninja can control > digest/frequency for themselves. > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:00 PM, David Lyon > <[email protected]> wrote: > > I sort of like the RSS feed but I think what would be better would be > > a once weekly summary email titles 'SB Jobs Board'. Setup to a chron > > job. > > > > That way, new people would see it and it wouldnt get lost in the noise. > > > > > > > > On 2/1/11, Geoff Langdale <[email protected]> wrote: > >> A sub-board makes sense. Is that technically feasible? Couldn't there > >> just be another Google group linked from the first page? The forms+RSS > >> or email/digest approaches are fine, too, and I guess maybe people > >> don't always necessarily want their job posts to spawn comment > >> threads; some moron might start flaming them about the use of the word > >> 'rockstar' or 'ninja'. :-) > >> > >> Being so restrictive about 'early stage positions only' doesn't make > >> sense. There just aren't that many startups out there. I do think it > >> would make sense to restrict advertising to tech startups (under a > >> certain size and meeting some broad criteria). > >> > >> I have a bias here; when Sensory Networks is hiring again we would > >> like to have more (reasonable) places to do it and to reach a certain > >> class of person. That is, that large middle ground of potential job > >> applicants who might be interested in working for a startup without > >> necessarily being the sort of people who want to sleep on couches, eat > >> ramen and receive their compensation in founder equity for an > >> unspecified period. Many people are somewhere between that and wanting > >> to work for BigCo and are probably more likely to join the startup > >> ecosystem after some time in the middle ground... > >> > >> Geoff. > >> > >> On Feb 1, 12:28 pm, Andrew Dowling <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> I’ve been sifting through the SB archives for advice on the best way > >>> to locate early-stage talent for start-ups in Sydney. The group > >>> guidelines are pretty clear that this is outside the scope of the SB > >>> group postings, and I think this makes sense – keeping the signal to > >>> noise ratio high is really important. > >>> > >>> Having said that, the general recommendations on how to find the right > >>> sort of person for an early-stage start-up (adventurers, generalists > >>> with specialist skills, risk-takers, happy to take a start-up salary > >>> in exchange for some upside) still seem a bit lacking. Posting a role > >>> like this on whirlpool or gumtree, for example (or even worse seek) > >>> will hit a big audience, but most of that audience will not the sort > >>> of person a start-up is looking for. My experiences using Seek in > >>> this regard have been worse than terrible. The right talent might be > >>> there, but it gets drowned out in all the noise. > >>> > >>> It strikes me that Silicon Beach could really fill a big gap here. > >>> Looking at the profiles of many people on the list, it seems they can > >>> be divided into one of three types: > >>> 1. A large proportion of “wannabe” entrepreneurs looking to find an > >>> opportunity (and I mean that in a totally positive way) > >>> 2. A bunch are entrepreneurs in the middle of the crazy fun of > >>> launching their own thing (like me) > >>> 3. Established entrepreneurs/VCs/etc who have been around the start-up > >>> block a few times and who are looking to put back into the local start- > >>> up community and help it grow. > >>> > >>> I’m sure there are many other groups in there but this seems like a > >>> reasonable simplification. One thing they all have in common is (quite > >>> obviously) their interest in start-ups ... the sort of audience self- > >>> selection that all the other job-posting forums lack. > >>> > >>> Using this breakdown, it would seem to me that the first two groups > >>> are likely to actively WANT to be able to read posts about early-stage > >>> positions, while the latter would like to avoid them like the plague. > >>> The following post from late last year contained a few perspectives on > >>> this issue from both sides of the > >>> fence: > http://groups.google.com/group/silicon-beach-australia/browse_thread/... > >>> > >>> As Marko commented in this post, one of the goals of SB is to help > >>> foster the local entrepreneurial community, and posting open positions > >>> would appear to be in line with this. Elias said in reply that he > >>> doesn’t want to hurt other start-ups in the recruitment area, but I > >>> would have thought we’re talking about something quite specialized > >>> here … open positions at early stage start-ups for people looking to > >>> take a chance and get in at the ground floor of something with great > >>> potential. I’d imagine the numbers would be very small. > >>> > >>> (Note that I am ONLY talking about very early-stage positions here, > >>> those key founding employees which will make or break a start-up. When > >>> your start-up is established and just needs to build out the team as > >>> it grows, I think you’re unlikely to find the sort of people you’re > >>> looking for in the first group I’ve listed above.) > >>> > >>> I’d be interested to hear what everyone thinks, but I’d definitely > >>> vote for something like a Silicon Beach sub-group specifically devoted > >>> to this sort of thing. That way it could be opt-in only, to avoid > >>> spamming those who didn’t want to be notified of positions like this. > >>> We could also establish guidelines that prevented people posting later- > >>> stage positions (particularly large numbers of them) that should > >>> really belong on somewhere like Seek. > >>> > >>> Apologies about the long post – this is quite a nuanced issue so > >>> seemed to warrant some discussion. It’s also quite close to my heart > >>> given the stage my business is at! > >>> > >>> Comments? Very interested to hear what everyone thinks…. > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Andrew. > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Silicon > Beach > >> Australia mailing list. > >> > >> Guidelines on discussion: > >> > http://groups.google.com/group/silicon-beach-australia/msg/351e183e1303508d?hl=en%3Fhl%3Den > >> > >> No lurkers! 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