As Elias mentioned, we've been discussing ways of improving communication on
SiliconBeach - especially around topics that have the potential to become
quite noisy. To that end, myself and Ash Angell have been building an
application for curating and distributing content within communities -
http://synadias.com. It's still in the experimental stage, but we think it
is ready for some real-world testing -  and what has been proposed in this
thread is an excellent test case for us; and on top of that, we feel it can
provide some real value back for the Silicon Beach community.

The tool itself focuses on content curation, so the only interface is
actually for the curator. Community members submit content via an email
address, and this can then be curated and sent back out. Our proposal for
using it in this case would be:

   - Post your job ad online somewhere. Be that on your own website (to let
   potentials get a feel for your company), blog, or on a job site like
   http://www.snowballer.com.au (or any of the other sites being suggested).
    It doesn't matter as long as you can get a permalink to the relevant
   information.
   - Send the URL via email to silicon-beach-j...@synadias.com.  Include any
   information you think might be relevant or you specifically want mentioned
   in the digest.
   - The submissions will be curated and assembled in a digest form by Ash
   periodically (so as not to overwhelm the list) and simply posted back to the
   Silicon Beach Mailing list with a relevant subject line.


A key advantage I'd see to this approach is that if someone in the community
sees a job advertised, they can also send it in too - that way, even
companies that aren't a member of SiliconBeach can get visibility. Also, if
you're looking for a job, feel free to advertise yourself on a site
somewhere, and send a link to silicon-beach-j...@synadias.com.

Cheers,
Paul.


On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Elias Bizannes <elias.bizan...@gmail.com>wrote:

> There is definitely a need to create channels here. Jobs would be one
> that's been on my mind for a while as a use case, and actually Paul Jones
> has built a solution that can do this. If people want, we
> can experiment with that.
>
> How about this as a solution: an RSS feed that people can subscribe to,
> which in effect could also be a newsletter.
>
> The RSS feed gets content by people filling out a form OR by adding machine
> code to blog posts (like how edgeio tried once upon a time) OR by people
> emailing as you suggest an email address and it gets populated into a
> digest.
>
> Elias Bizannes
> http://eliasbizannes.com
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Andrew Dowling <
> andrew.dowl...@tapestryme.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I’ve been sifting through the SB archives for advice on the best way
>> to locate early-stage talent for start-ups in Sydney. The group
>> guidelines are pretty clear that this is outside the scope of the SB
>> group postings, and I think this makes sense – keeping the signal to
>> noise ratio high is really important.
>>
>> Having said that, the general recommendations on how to find the right
>> sort of person for an early-stage start-up (adventurers, generalists
>> with specialist skills, risk-takers, happy to take a start-up salary
>> in exchange for some upside) still seem a bit lacking. Posting a role
>> like this on whirlpool or gumtree, for example (or even worse seek)
>> will hit a big audience, but most of that audience will not the sort
>> of person a start-up is looking for.  My experiences using Seek in
>> this regard have been worse than terrible. The right talent might be
>> there, but it gets drowned out in all the noise.
>>
>> It strikes me that Silicon Beach could really fill a big gap here.
>> Looking at the profiles of many people on the list, it seems they can
>> be divided into one of three types:
>> 1. A large proportion of “wannabe” entrepreneurs looking to find an
>> opportunity (and I mean that in a totally positive way)
>> 2. A bunch are entrepreneurs in the middle of the crazy fun of
>> launching their own thing (like me)
>> 3. Established entrepreneurs/VCs/etc who have been around the start-up
>> block a few times and who are looking to put back into the local start-
>> up community and help it grow.
>>
>> I’m sure there are many other groups in there but this seems like a
>> reasonable simplification. One thing they all have in common is (quite
>> obviously) their interest in start-ups ... the sort of audience self-
>> selection that all the other job-posting forums lack.
>>
>> Using this breakdown, it would seem to me that the first two groups
>> are likely to actively WANT to be able to read posts about early-stage
>> positions, while the latter would like to avoid them like the plague.
>> The following post from late last year contained a few perspectives on
>> this issue from both sides of the fence:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/silicon-beach-australia/browse_thread/thread/a508543b13a29288/80d3d59b250ab207?lnk=gst&q=benchmark#80d3d59b250ab207
>>
>> As Marko commented in this post, one of the goals of SB is to help
>> foster the local entrepreneurial community, and posting open positions
>> would appear to be in line with this. Elias said in reply that he
>> doesn’t want to hurt other start-ups in the recruitment area, but I
>> would have thought we’re talking about something quite specialized
>> here … open positions at early stage start-ups for people looking to
>> take a chance and get in at the ground floor of something with great
>> potential. I’d imagine the numbers would be very small.
>>
>> (Note that I am ONLY talking about very early-stage positions here,
>> those key founding employees which will make or break a start-up. When
>> your start-up is established and just needs to build out the team as
>> it grows, I think you’re unlikely to find the sort of people you’re
>> looking for in the first group I’ve listed above.)
>>
>> I’d be interested to hear what everyone thinks, but I’d definitely
>> vote for something like a Silicon Beach sub-group specifically devoted
>> to this sort of thing. That way it could be opt-in only, to avoid
>> spamming those who didn’t want to be notified of positions like this.
>> We could also establish guidelines that prevented people posting later-
>> stage positions (particularly large numbers of them) that should
>> really belong on somewhere like Seek.
>>
>> Apologies about the long post – this is quite a nuanced issue so
>> seemed to warrant some discussion. It’s also quite close to my heart
>> given the stage my business is at!
>>
>> Comments? Very interested to hear what everyone thinks….
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andrew.
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