Good Morning Dee,
At 03:56 AM 8/29/2008, you wrote:
dee PS sorry if I haven't understood your very detailed analysis,
but I'm afraid I need a lay persons version - not being very up on
the science of it all.
I read all the replies and statements relative to your questions
and possible problems.
As right and correct as they all were, ................
I did fear and think, exactly what you said in the statement above. (
using my crystal ball of course )
So, I guess I better tell you what I think, .......... before the
Hurricane blows me away and maybe destroys all my computers.
I will tell you what I think the problem is, before I tell you a
thing or two that might help.
You and others may not like or may not believe what I have to say.
The world and the automatic CS maker are trying to dictate how you
make CS, and are leaving little thinking, reasoning, changes,
methods, imagination, experimentation, UP TO YOU.
That is exactly why I do not have an automatic CS maker, never wanted
one, even if they were free.
Anyone that thinks a few chips, transistors, regulators, and diodes,
can out think my control systems,
MY BRAIN and MY Hands, will have a hard time proving that. Yes, I
might use an instrument or two.
A meter and a stop watch, and my highly trained, micro vision, my eyes.
Yes, the eye is the most powerful measuring tool in the world. Carl
Zeiss proved that long ago.
And I have measured things within 1 to 3 thousands with my eyes. (
that was a while back when I
could see better ) < grin >
And I do not have to hear that well to make CS. I have only made one
yellow batch, and that was intentionally, yes, intentionally. Never
made a black batch, virtually no settlement, ever.
AS far as I know, and as far as I can tell, ever batch I have ever
made worked wonders, including the yellow batch.
Comparing all this with a stupid computer,........... if you cannot
do a task with a yellow pad and a pencil, it is doubtful if you can
do it very well with a computer.
Some people have tried to get me to do a custom program for them, I
could tell right away they did not know and understand their
application well enough to define it for me.
Thus, ........ I had to tell a few little white lies and talk my way
out of the job.
Sorry I got distracted and forgot the purpose of this message. I do that often.
Question 1.
Are you using any starter solution?
If I use one quart starter solution, ( a previous batch of CS ) and
tell you I made a gallon, I am wrong.
I have only made 3 quarts.
Likewise, if you use 1/2 pint of starter solution, you quart batch
becomes 3 each, ........ half pints.
Question / Statement 2.
Very likely, in my opinion, your constant current circuit and
automatic cut off are controlling the time factor, dictating what
happens, and there is little you or anyone can do to change that.
Possibility Number 1.
You could manually move the electrodes, if you had the right
container and the right top for it.
You would then trick the circuits into thinking something had
happened, that had not.
Suggestion Number 1.
Get a large mouth container, make one, steal one, get it anywhere you can.
Contact a genius glass cutter if you have to do it, or build it. Me
and others can tell you how.
Suggestion Number 2.
Build a custom top with holes or whatever to position your
electrodes. You could change them a time of two, and likely speed up
your process, ......... maybe not.
Sad Fact Number 1.
If you want to leave the automatic CS maker, go to the store, take a
nap, run errands, or whatever, why worry about the time?
I watch my process, the whole smear sitting on the table, and do
other things while watching it.
You cannot change this cruel world very much, no matter how you try.
You seem to want the best of one thing, and the best of another,
.......... at the same time.
I doubt that this is possible. As smart as I am, I cannot do it.
Final Summary
Learn to live with the process, learn to live with the dictator you
have purchased, or.............
Become a Terrorist, like I have, to the CS making process. You
cannot be both at the same time.
What would I do ?
If by some chance, I found and automatic CS maker laying in the
street, ...........
I would butcher it if I could. I would add a few switches, a few
potentiometers, and go from there.
I would have a "Semi Automatic" CS maker, I suppose.
The whole world of CS making is a dilemma, with many different
methods and solutions.
You pick and choose, Be a dictator or a terrorist, but no matter,
you must rationalize all phases to your mental condition, and accept
the decision you make.
Meantime, back in the jungle, I am happy with my two bit, near
nothing CS maker.
It uses no battery, no transformer ( some call them a Wall Wart, I
cannot stand that term, and I have used 10,000 of the critters ) It
uses telephone line power, but could work on batteries, if the phone
line disappears. ( 52 VDC in most cases , but that amount is not on
the electrodes )
Cost about 5 to 6 dollars to build.
Finally, ......... do not worry yourself sick, trying to change
something you cannot change.
Anyone that thinks there is one way or a best way to make CS, ............
I fear they are using "Fuzzy Logic" which most know little about.
If you have simple questions, ask them.
But you cannot ask complex questions, and expect a simple answer.
And.......... if you do not understand the question, you will not
understand the answer.
Of course I realize, I answered nothing. but maybe a few facts mixed
with a few theories, and my
crazy ideas.
Wayne ( Rule of Thumb ? ..... there are no Rules in my thumbs )
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