On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 01:57:20PM +0000, M. G. Devour wrote:
> Someone asks Ken:
> > >> What mehod did you use to verify that it was still ionic and
> > >> unchanged?
> 
> Ken wrote:
> > > ## EC meter.
> > > Colloids don't conduct electricity.
> 
> Indi replies:
> > That is incorrect. Even tap water will conduct electricity.
> 
> I say:
> 
> Huh? Any tap water I've ever seen or heard of has scads of dissolved 
> minerals in it, which provide ions that make it hightly conductive.
> 

That is true.

> As far as any of our sages have ever been able to determine, 
> conductivity meters can only pick up the effect of ions. To the extent 
> colloidal particles exist in your brew, they won't contribute to the 
> conductivity.
>

What I mean is that measuring for conductivity is no guarantee of ionic
silver specifically, particularly if the solution in question is five years
old. Truly gas-tight containers certainly exist, but are not the norm (that's 
the reason sealed packaging exists). If you place your solution in a bottle 
or jar and just screw the lid on, five years later you will have had all sorts 
of chemical activity going on in that container. (unless it was stored in
the dark in a vacuum, and the cap as well as the container is glasss). You can 
measure for conductivity, but that will not give proof of a given solution being
"unchanged".

I don't mean to get into an argument or anything, but it's just the way
things are. Ionic solutions are volatile (have a short shelf life), and are
photo-sensitive by nature. That is why medicinal ionic solutions (for
insstance those commonly known  as "iodine" and "mercurachrome") always came 
packaged in brown glass bottles.

When someone tells me he kept some ionic solution for five years and 
measuring for conductivity "proved" the solution was still pristine, 
I feel obligated to point out that he has not proved that at all.
It is hard enough to determine proper facts in this field of study, after all.

BTW, one can easily test this at home; measure the conductivity of a jar of
plain distilled water, then store the jar for a few months, then measure again.
You will see much more conductivity after. :)


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