Brigham Young University did a detailed time/PPM/kill study.
Don't recall details well, but [probably] as little as 3 PPB sterilized
water over some period of time, where 3 PPM did it a lot faster.
David A. Revelli
Microbiologist
Brigham Young University
Dr. Ron W. Leavitt, Ph.D.
Professor of Microbiology/Molecular Biology
Commercial silver ion water treatment systems have been available for
decades and are used by the merchant marines, various airlines, NASA., some
water treatment plants both in the USA and Russia.
Honeywell Rockwell and others us "Ag-Ion" [TM] silver ion exchange resins
to keep filters sterile.
Curad silver bandaids work by using body fluids as the electrolyte to
make silver ions migrate from a silver fabric layer to an aluminum fabric
layer. [Battery effect]
http://www.silverinstitute.org/medical_applications.php
The newest trend is the use of nano-silver particles to deliver silver ions.
ANY chemical reaction involves the exchange of ions [??]
I sorta recall hearing that the the whole field of chemistry can be
expressed in electrical terms.
Copper and zinc [and many other] ions will also kill germs.
ode
At 01:52 PM 2/6/2010 -0800, you wrote:

Hello Steve,
I am begining to realize that the exact mechanism of how silver works
inside the body is still a "little" theoritical...
Let's jump outside the body for just a moment. Other sanatizers require a
concentration of the product to be in contact with the pathogen for a
period of time. With chlorine dioxide, for example, the CT values allow
you to adjust the process time for the concentration you are using. When
disinfecting wilderness water, I use a CT of 1000 mg-minutes/liter. When
I mix up a 4 PPM chlorine dioxide solution, I know that to sanatize a
liter of water it is going to take 250 minutes. If I have lots of time,
and am concerned with better taste, I can reduce the concentration to 2
PPM chlorine dioxide, and extend the time out to 500 minutes.
Does anything like this exist for EIS?
Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:[email protected]>Norton, Steve
To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: CS>moon on fingernails? -- how much do you use?
I was skirting this because it is a secondary issue. Silver ions are very
active and will form compounds with the first substance it can. Silver
ions do not survive the digestive system as free ions. They probably react
with stomach acid to primarily form silver chloride. The silver may also
react with other substances such as ammopnia to form other compounds. But
they do not remain as silver ions.
- Steve N
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From: poast <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri Feb 05 16:03:24 2010
Subject: Re: CS>
Hello Steve,
OK, I am beginning to understand.
I have looked at the Altman paper, but have not studied it. I will take
another look at it, in detail.
If I may present a somewhat weak argument...
Doesn't it stand to reason that if you take more, you will not only ingest
more ions, but also more particles. Perhaps the elimination through the
kidney is just because there is more of both in the body...
Back to the books, for now.
Thanks.
Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:[email protected]>Norton, Steve
To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 10:43 AM
Subject: CS>
Tom,
I am not suggesting daily use over use as needed. There was a time when I
first used EIS I used it several times a day. It allowed me to get off a
long term dependence on antibiotics. Now I take it when I think I need it.
As to why I think that large doses of EIS do not significantly increase
the effectiveness of EIS is a little more complex and somewhat
controversial. It has to do with how EIS is processed in the body. The
best clue to that comes from the Altman Silver Excretion Study. You can
find the study at the Silver Medicine web site. Unfortunately the study
pnly provides clues but not definitive answers. That is where the
interpretation I mentioned in may previous post is important.
IMO the important issue is whether the silver eliminated by the kidney is
is in solution or particulate form. Silver in solution is far more active
than silver in particulate form. There are varying opinions on that
question. One of the more popular theories is that it is a soluble
silver/ammonia compound is formed and since it contains ammonia it is
removed by the kidney. However I have found that one of the most likely
ammonia compounds, Ag(NH3)2, is eliminated by the liver and not the
kidney. While I cannot say it with absolute certainly, my research
indicates that all silver compounds in solution are removed by the liver.
For various reasons it appaers that taking large ammounts of EIS
predominately increases the amount of silver that excretes through the
kidney which is therefore the much less effective particulate form. So I
suggested two complementary methods that will increase the silver that is
in solution while reducing the amount in particulate form. One is holding
additional EIS in the mouth to allow transport of silver ions through the
mucosal tissues without swallowing. The other is contained in the note
regarding the use of Gatortade.
I hope this helps.
- Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: poast <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri Feb 05 11:03:13 2010
Subject: Re: CS>moon on fingernails? -- how much do you use?
Hello Steve,
I am totally new to EIS, so please be gentle with me...
Your opinion seems to be that the best use EIS is to maintain a level in the
body through daily use. You also indicate that you don't think that a large
dose of EIS is effective.
As I ponder this I find myself finding it difficult to understand. It would
seem that if your body was "invaded" by a bunch of "bad guys" they would
overwhelm the "good guys" in your body, and an influx of a large "good guy"
army would help win the war.
I know this is over simplified, but isn't the idea to expose the "bad guys"
to a concentration of the EIS?
I am probably missing a lot, but any "big picture" concepts would be greatly
appreciated.
Tom
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