\Hi Alan: Not at all... Sites such as Quackwatch, et al. aren't run by skeptics, they are run by individuals posing as some sort of authority.
A skeptic, by definition, would actually DO the science to see if the claims made by CS had any valid (many of us skeptics did exaclty just that... I've personally commissioned several scientific studies, as well as run test groups actually testing the effectiveness of CS for a basic data pool... ). If a skeptic was not in a position to do the science, the skeptic would work diligently examining any and all scientific data available. Best Regards, Jason ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Jones To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 5:39 PM Subject: Re: Skeptics was // Re: CS>Magnesium Oxide Prill Beads - 20 June Jason, don't most so-called skeptics dismiss colloidal silver as quackery? Alan On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Jason R Eaton <resea...@silvermedicine.org> wrote: Hi Bodhisattva: Your remarks are (and quite classically) very prejudicial. Skeptics are not armchair philosophers. They are scientists, with a varying degree of skill, that are quite active in world of inquiry. Granted, there are many people who don't understand the term and claim to be one, but this is universal with any belief system. The true skeptic ideology ignores belief altogether as absent of real existance. A belief is only a form of energy (a very feeble one, usually) and has only a fleeting connection with reality (objective or perceived). And while most ardent skeptics are very existential, they ***do not ever*** fall into the trap of discounting anecdotal evidence. This of course means that a good skeptic cannot afford an atheistic viewpoint any more than a good skeptic can afford a perspective of fervent religious faith. This usually makes the true skeptic a highly successful, achieved, and qualified scientist. However, like most disciples of truth, finding a good practitioner can be extremely rare. http://www.skeptic.com Most people of spiritual concerns are deeply resentful of skepticism. This is quite sad, as I was personally taught to apply this very buddhistic idea first and foremost with the mental and emotional realm as a part of a healthy spiritual discipline. Equally, however, people neglect to remember that the end result of inquiry is either a demonstration of fact or a lack of conclusion. With most actual real spiritual pursuits, the act of inquiry will lead to a lack of conclusion... and yet, hopefully, the collection of useful data. A skeptic is ok with being left in doubt; a believer is usually NOT ok with that uncomfortable concept. However, there are times when skepticism has demonstrated beyond any possible doubt the reality of certain religious, spiritual and philisophical practices. I could list some of the spiritual greats of world history (few of which have come from the English speaking world) that embrace the art of Inquiry (need I neglect to mention the Indian sage who perfect the art of Self Inqiry from atma-vicara?)... but someone else already did a good job with historic figures for me: http://www.healthyskepticism.org/global/quotes/list/science/ I actually view your weak and unsubstantiated (not to mention not very well thought out) negativity against the idea of the skeptic as an attack which needs a few moments of reasonable defense. While the off topic list is the perfect place for such things to be discussed, I think that THIS list needs to remain very open to inquiry and questioning and doubt... for the benefit of the people who do not believe as you do. If you had stated that you are a Nazi and hate jews, you would have been banned from this list. However, it appears that other forms of prejudism are well tolerated. Best Regards, Jason -- Alan Jones "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)