To unravel that mess would take a "tome"
And it might work just fine.
Better than dirt cheap easy to make Ionic Silver and colloidal byproducts ?
Probably not.
Even if there is a difference, is it worth the price difference and an
expensive dependency on a salesman that minces the facts into complete
nonsense?
The most telling is the chart that lumps all colloidal silver forms in with
ionic and claims that neither has a charge.
It just ain't so.
One flat out lie throws the whole speal into suspect land.
Consider an intriguing comparison of this new silver sol vs. colloidal
silver9. While one colloidal silver product was found to inhibit the growth
of E. coli (bacteria that causes food poisoning, diarrhea, etc.) at
concentrations of 1500 ppm, silver sol killed E. coli at a concentration of
only 5 ppm. This makes the silver sol several hundred times more effective
than comparable colloid solutions.
## Ionic silver does it at as little as 3 parts per billion. [BYU study]
faster at 3 PPM..so just what is this "One Silver Product" that's so
ineffective? ..a freekin chunk of SPOON ??
"colloid solution" NOT. It's either a colloidal suspension [by definition
of colloid] or an ionic solution, or a mixture of both...two DIFFERENT
things in the same container.
Besides...That's NOT a "comparable colloid solution" [ignoring the mixing
of terms]...unless.. it would have done the same job at 3PPM and 1500 was
just overkill.
Is inhibit the same result as kill ? E Coli has a short live span..if you
inhibit growth, ie replication... it dies of old age in minutes with no
babies. Dead colony is dead individuals. Dead is dead.
I could go on for days about mis-directive use of language.
It's hard enough to accurately express something that's true.
"More doctors recommend this pill than all others combined"
No doctors in their right minds would recommend combining all other pills !
Like...the Tower of Babble doesn't need DIFFERENT languages to be
babble....language itself is enough to make nonsense with. [Our biggest
barrier to communication, even when used honestly. ]
Guardian Silver is super-charged with 10,000 volts AC current versus the
110 volt DC current of typical colloidal silver preparations. The result is
a vastly superior silver sol with distinct characteristics, including the
catalytic properties helpful for antimicrobial use.
## Voltage and current are different things, the statement mixes terms,
calls one thing the same as the other and makes no sense at all. [Either an
idiot, or a liar..take your pick ]
"Typical" would be 27 volts and varying current..or a constant current and
varying voltage.
I don't know of ANYONE that uses 120 VDC unless it's split over a series of
several cells...meaning NOT... 120 VDC anywhere but at the power supply.
"Typical" would be 120 volts into a power supply , which has nothing to do
with the actual generation of ions....and 6 to 36 volts DC out to the
generator.
The only difference between 12 volts and 10,000 volts, given the same
current, is the velocity of the ions.... and ions are ions are ions, are
defined by a specific charge by way of extra or missing electrons and
cannot be "Super-charged" and still be that substance.
Atomic Electron Shell charge and electrical voltage charge, like in a
capacitor, are not the same things.
Even if you could "Supercharge" a liquid, [and that charge not bleed off in
transport] it would shock your mouth when you try to drink it as the static
electrical charge potentials instantly equalize...gone before it ever gets in.
The only reason to use 10,000 volts when using 60 Hz AC is to get the ions
moving fast enough to get far enough away from the electrodes so the
polarity reversal doesn't just suck them back on.
10,000 volts AC at what Frequency????
It doesn't make any given ion different than the parameters that define
what they are.
A silver ion that's made with 10,000 volts is the exact same as one made
with 1.2 volts.
If you drive a car at 5 MPH or 100 MPH, it's still the same car...it didn't
turn into a high rise apartment building.
A lot of words, zero information and a whole bunch of misleading
dis-information for the ignorant to sucker down.
My apple is better than your orange because those lemons are purple...and
they're all really made out of plaster.
Bullshit. Plain and simple.
Is the "product" any good?
Maybe.
The shyster salesman sucks.
Ode
At 08:51 AM 8/18/2010 -0600, you wrote:
Okay, Jim, Ode, now that you have weighed in with "intuition" and "Mixed
terms, lies, misdirection, purposeful confusion and plain old BS", how
about some hard science that might actually help unenlightened laymen?
Leo
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----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:gooogleis...@gmail.com>Jim Holmes
To: <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: CS>pederson's silver
A few moments of his video gave me that intuition, before any data was
offered Strange.
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:22 AM, Ode Coyote
<<mailto:odecoy...@windstream.net>odecoy...@windstream.net> wrote:
This guy is calling brown pigs blue cows in a herd of goats dressed to
look like chickens.
Mixed terms, lies, misdirection, purposeful confusion and plain old BS.
Ode
At 10:35 AM 8/16/2010 -0600, you wrote:
Does anyone have personal experience with the silver product developed
by Dr. Gordon Pederson at
<<http://www.guardian-silver-health-supplements.com/learning/video/gordon-pedersen-silver-solution/>http://www.guardian-silver-health-supplements.com/learning/video/gordon-pedersen-silver-solution/>http://www.guardian-silver-health-supplements.com/learning/video/gordon-pedersen-silver-solution/?
Is there any way a layman could produce a product like it?
Leo
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