Thanks Marshall. I wasn't going to argue with the patent. But since silver oxide on the particles should show as brown and Silver Sol (ASAP, etc) are clear it did not add up. See for the color of silver oxide http://www.public.asu.edu/~jpbirk/qual/qualanal/silver.html
- Steve N ----- Original Message ----- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:51 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com <silver-list@eskimo.com> Subject: EXTERNAL:Re: CS>pederson's silver Adding hydrogen peroxide to CS is something we have been doing for a long time. It does increase the effectiveness, but not by preoxidizing. They got the chemistry all wrong. You cannot preoxidize the silver on the particles and expect it to stay there. It has a solubility of around 13 ppm (26 when you consider it changes back and forth between silver hydroxide), and will thus immediately dissolve off, making plain old ionic silver. But H2O2 is not just an oxidizer, it is a redux agent, and not only converts the particles to silver oxide, but the silver oxide/hydroxide back to two atom colloidal particles. That is why it increases effectiveness, it breaks the colloidal particles down to the smallest possible units. We have known this for years here. Marshall Norton, Steve wrote: > One last point. Stomach acid will convert the silver oxide coating on the > silver particles to either metallic silver or silver chloride. So Guardian > Silver pre-oxidizing their silver particles provides no benefit over any > other colloidal silver when taken internally. > > - Steve N > > -----Original Message----- > From: Norton, Steve > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 10:16 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>pederson's silver > > > Guardian Silver consists of primarily silver particles. All silver particles > work by releasing silver ions and it is the silver ions that are > anti-microbial. Silver ions are not released from pure silver. In vivo, > silver particles form silver oxide on its surface and it is the silver oxide > that releases silver ions and provide the anti-microbial activity. Guardian > Silver claims to pre-oxidize their silver particles > by adding hydrogen peroxide to their CS when making it. That is the sum total > of the uniqueness of their CS. There may be some benefit to > pre-oxidizing the silver particles vs waiting for it to happen in vivo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guardian Silver consists of primarily silver particles. All silver > particles work by releasing silver ions and it is the silver ions that > are anti-microbial. Silver ions are not released from pure silver. In > vivo, silver particles form silver oxide on its surface and it is the > silver oxide that releases silver ions and provide the anti-microbial > activity. Guardian Silver claims to pre-oxidize their silver particles > by adding hydrogen peroxide to their CS when making it. That is the sum > total of the uniqueness of their CS. There may be some benefit to > pre-oxidizing the silver particles vs waiting for it to happen in vivo. > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectsubscribe> > Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com> > > > > > > >
