By the same arguments, one could ask where are all the studies on colloidal
silver done by credible researchers?  Oops.

The funny thing about what constitutes objective proof, is that it is a
subjective decision.

David

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Neville Munn <one.red...@hotmail.com>wrote:

>  Many seem to quote wikipedia, I doubt this source is all that reliable.
>  I certainly wouldn't quote from it as any form of authority on subject
> matters such as these anyway, and I'm only a mug punter.
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but from all my readings about Rife his
> *personal* researched material was destroyed, and his sidekicks attempted
> to duplicate from memory did they not?  And I'm not exactly sure if
> *everything* he did was documented?  Again from my readings, he failed to
> repeat his purported successes after the ruination of him and the
> destruction of his material.
>
> N.
>
> > From: mrmon...@pstca.com
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>
> > Subject: Re: CS>Making 100% colloidal EIS
> > Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 22:59:46 -0400
>
> >
> > Hi Jason,
> >
> > No reputable researcher has been able to duplicate Royal Rife's results.
> > From Wikipedia:
> >
> > Rife's claims could not be independently replicated, [5] and were
> > ultimately discredited by the medical profession in the 1950s.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Rife
> >
> > Many of the claims attributed to Tesla never happened.
> >
> > None of Beck's claims that he made in the YouTube video have
> materialized.
> >
> > There is nothing you can do to change the fact electrons cannot flow in
> an
> > electrolyte.
> >
> > A blood analysis doesn't mean much. It is a complex procedure that is
> > easily derailed by poor technique or measurements.
> >
> > The fundamental proof is does it work? The answer is no. Most of the
> > effects attributed to zappers can easily be explained by other factors.
> >
> > I am an expert in instrumentation design and analysis. My credentials are
> > as follows:
> >
> > 1. I am a retired electronics engineer with over 50 years of experience
> in
> > instrumentation and control systems. These are among the most difficult
> > fields in electronics.
> >
> > 2. I had my own company from 1976 until I retired recently.
> >
> > 3. I have been awarded 6 US patents involving hard disk drives. My patent
> > list is here:
> >
> > http://pstca.com/patents.htm
> >
> > The statements I made are obviously true and can be observed by anyone.
> > These devices are not used in clinics or any place where their
> performance
> > can be monitored and verified.
> >
> > There is no need to belittle contamination on the electrodes. It is a
> very
> > real and significant problem. Ignoring it could cause you serious harm. I
> > once got some kind of contamination on my silver electrodes when I laid
> > them on my workbench and they must have touched a spot of oil or grease.
> I
> > was so sick after taking cs made with these electrodes that it took three
> > days in bed to recover. I now keep a second glass to hold the assembly
> > while I am filling the cs generator with dw or emptying the cs, and I do
> > not allow the electrodes to touch anything. Do not underestimate the
> danger
> > of contamination. It can really harm you.
> >
> > There is no need to resort to dubious and overhyped gadgets when they
> have
> > no effect on the most basic pathogen, viruses.
> >
> > There is no need to mess with a non-functional technology when a high
> > quality ionic cs will vastly outperform any of the claims made by biased
> > and undereducated individuals.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike Monett
> >
> > "Jason R Eaton" <ja...@eytonsearth.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >Hi Ken:
> > >
> > >Beware of individuals claiming false expertise.
> > >
> > >First off, "zappers" were firsted tested by individuals such as Royal
> Rife
> > >and Nikola Tesla. These ideas were then eventually borrowed, with an
> > >attempt at a refinement, by individuals such as Bob Beck and Hulda
> Clark.
> > >
> > >Second, my experience is that the hulda clark type zapper is only
> marginally
> > >effective. However, for many individuals, "marginally" is enough to
> give
> > >the immune system enough support to recover.
> > >
> > >One of the problems with Hulda Clark type zappers is the actual
> waveform.
> > >Just like Royal Rife was working with very ineffective technology, most
> of
> > >the Hulda Clark zappers don't produce a true square wave form, which
> > >inhibits any potential effectiveness. A device such as the "Godzilla"
> is
> > >far more effective to treat localized conditions.
> > >
> > >When using one of the more technically correct and properly engineered
> > >zappers, the effectiveness is increased. However, as the saying goes,
> the
> > >pathogen is nothing and the bioterrain is everything. For severe
> chronic
> > >systemic infections, the best one can hope for using anti-pathogenic
> devices
> > >and substances is to help keep the bloodstream clean and support the
> immune
> > >system, and thus improve the body's own ability to address infections.
> > >
> > >As far as electrodes, use an extremely clean cloth moistened with a
> high
> > >grade sea salt solution. Being concerned about the adsorption of metals
> > >through such a cloth into the body is like worrying about a neighbor's
> > >candle when your house is burning down. I would be far more concerned
> about
> > >toxicity from the average air sample in metropolitan areas.
> > >
> > >BTW: One of the simpler ways to test the effectiveness of zappers is by
> > >contrasting before and after live blood analysis studies.
> > >
> > >Kind Regards,
> > >
> > >Jason
> >
> >
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