Hi Dan:

It's not that it is a big deal (or desireable even) it's about the creativity and exploration.

The idea of a slow burn is a favorite amongst some of the old timers (no longer part of the list, I believe)... brewing silver according to moon cycles, and other more "ancient" patient practices.

What was noticed was that via this slow burn, the silver ions or particles deeply penetrated the glass container forming complex crystals in the glass itself....way to deep into the glass to even sand away.

I would greatly like to see a TEM of what the silver particles look like via this process, but I no longer have access to this equipment.

We know that the FAST burn method (HVAC) creates larger, very jagged crystalline silver particles via the work of Ole Bob Berger.

I'm wondering if the slow burn process creates much more refined and non-chaotically organized colloidal crystalline particles.

~Jason



On 2/16/2015 10:56 AM, Dan Nave wrote:
Jason,

Time for your yearly post on cleaning electrodes.  Frankly, I seem to
have missed it...

I would also be interested in hearing about the "crystallization
effects" of the slow brew process.

Dan

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Jason <ja...@eytonsearth.org
<mailto:ja...@eytonsearth.org>> wrote:

    Hi Gail/David:

    Facebook is the worst of the worst for their groups setup and activity.

    The lack of accurate information on those groups is astounding, and even
    when someone posts something of real value, it is lost in obscurity a
    few minutes later... not to mention the instant bullying and control
    freaks that thrive in such a setting.

    I'm very active in some other lists because there is a lot of very
    dynamic exchanges of ideas.

    I'm all for getting away from the status quo, because the status quo
    means stagnation.

    I can't remember that last time I heard an original idea on the
    silverlist... oh wait, I can!  It was from David, and the last
    before that was probably a rehash on some ideas pioneered by Brooks
    Bradley.

    I was on the phone with Peter Lindeman last year, and had a great
    discussion about brewing silver for a few weeks using only a trickle
    of a current solar-generated. This slow process creates some amazing
    crystallization effects.

    Also, posts that have gotten through in the past few years have gone
    largely ignored.  I do a yearly test here about the importance of
    cleaning the silver electrodes if you really want a great product.

    I always get the same response.  Not even anyone curious about how I
    personally tested this theory or how they can test to see the
    difference in quality.  Just three people or so saying they have no
    need to clean the electrodes.

    I really like the last innovation I'd seen from Ken; those looped
    electrodes make a big difference in cutting down electrode degradation.

    ...also, Trem's electrode configuration on the SG-7 is excellent,
    and I think it only works so well because he uses both polarity
    reversal and water-pump driven water circulation.

    ~Jason


    On 2/16/2015 8:25 AM, wanda85...@yahoo.com
    <mailto:wanda85...@yahoo.com> wrote:

        Hi David,

        Do u think a new forum will really help?

        Personally I think many have gone to Facebook.   I'm amazed how so
        many groups r dying out when they use to be so active.    People
        must
        be off doing other things with their life.  I know I've lost
        interest
        as I'm busy with other things.

        This list is kind of like old faithful to me.  I just assumed it
        would go on as usual.

        Uncle Ben would have certainly added some spice to the group.   Who
        knows maybe his posts aren't getting through either so he gave up.

        I don't post often either as I really just don't have much to
        say and
        some of the few posts I've tried to post didn't show up either.
        Hopefully things will straighten out quickly.

        Now let's see if this goes through fwiw.

        Gail



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