Hello Andy,

We don't recommend heating the water.  It speeds the process but also makes
large particles, especially if you are using a constant voltage setup which
you are.  Never add salt or anything else to the water.  You want a silver
colloid; not silver compounds.  They are not the same.

The strands you speak of are what we all can see during production if you
shine a strong flashlight or laser beam through the water.  That is the
silver.  The particles will separate and disperse in several hours and then
you will see the yellow color.  If you don't see it, it is probably because
you didn't deposit enough silver in the water for it to become apparent to
you.  Try running for a longer period of time and then you will probably see
the yellow color.

Plating out is not exactly the same as fallout.  Plating is the golden or
yellow color you will see on the inside of your vessel after a while.  Some
fine particles can plate out.  Fallout is what is in the bottom of your
vessel.  That is from large particles which couldn't stay in dispersion.

The dregs will stay in the filter paper.  If your CS isn't very clear at the
end of your filtering process, most likely you made it using water which
wasn't pure enough.

We have golden colored CS sitting on the shelf which is a year old with no
fallout.  Small particles tend not to fall out.  I guess that is my
recommendation to use a constant current source when you make CS.  Using
constant voltage will make a mix of large and small particles, so I suspect
you will not have long shelf life.  However, you can easily make more
anytime with your setup, so why worry about it.

Good luck.

Trem


----- Original Message -----
From: <ascottx...@aol.com>
To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Hello List


> Thanks for the response Trem,
>
> I've heard of people heating up the water, adding things to it, and using
a
> previous batch as a starter to speed up the process but hey, who's in a
hurry
> when you're just getting started? Also, I've heard the above increases
> particle size. Any thoughts on that?
>
> I've also heard that it is supposed to turn yellow. Mine didn't, It just
had
> thin strands coming out of the electrodes. Should I care about a yellow
color?
>
> The coffee filters sound like a good idea. I did see dregs (silver oxide)?
> floating around in it.
>
> You mentioned "plating out." Is that sediment falling to the bottom of the
> container?
>
> One last question. I guess we're concerned about the silver being ionic.
How
> long before it looses it's charge? More specifically, what kind of shelf
life
> should I expect before I need to make a new batch?
>
> Thanks for your time
> Andy
> (^_^)
>
>  Hello Andy,
>
>  Welcome.  You did good.  The only thing I would suggest is to wait until
the
>  particles have dispersed throughout the water.  This will take about 12
>  hours.  That way you  are sure of an even distribution of the silver.
>
>  Storing in brown containers is OK if you don't want to see how it is
doing.
>  Storing in clear HDPE containers such as soft drink containers will let
you
>  see whether the CS is plating out.  Don't store in direct sunlight or
near
>  magnetic fields or in the refrigerator.  They all cause fallout.  Don't
>  shake it before use.  Filter it through a coffee filter after you make it
do
>  get rid of dregs.
>
>  You have made what we call basic CS.  It may have particles of various
>  sizes.  The large ones will fall out.  Fine ones will stay in suspension.
>  Make sure you use distilled water.
>
>  Most persons start with a small amount and work up to the amount they
feel
>  comfortable with.  I suggest you start with one teaspoon a day and work
you
>  way up to what you feel comfortable with.  If you don't have problems,
that
>  may be a good prophylactic dose.  If you have problems, take more and
>  observe your reactions.  It is pretty hard to overdose unless you have
made
>  your CS improperly.
>
>  Good luck.
>
>  Trem
>  t...@silvergen.com
>
>
>
>  > Hello List,
>  >
>  > My name is Andy and I just subscribed while making my first batch. I
>  haven't
>  > had time to look at any of the posts so far so please bear with me.
This
>  is
>  > what I did. Please let me know if it was right.
>  >
>  > I suspended two pieces of 14 AWG .999 fine silver wire in a glass of
room
>  > temperature distilled water (Alhambra) about 1 1/2" apart. I connected
a
>  lab
>  > bench power supply to them and set it at 30 volts. After about 1/2 hour
>  > bubbles started to come off of the wires and what appeared to be fine
>  strands
>  > of something started to come out of both of the wires and slowly move
>  towards
>  > each other. I kept power to it an additional 15 minutes.
>  >
>  > I swished the glass of water around and shot a laser pointer through
it.
>  > There's definitely something in there. I took a mouthful and swished it
>  > around and gargled for a minute or two and then repeated. It had a
strange
>  > taste and I felt like I got a buzz but that could have been
psychological.
>  >
>  > 1) Can anyone tell me if this is the correct procedure for the desired
>  > particle size?
>  >
>  > 2) How about the shelf life for bottling the stuff? I thought I would
use
>  > amber beer bottles with crown caps. Store in a cool dark place.
>  >
>  > 3) Dose anyone know if CS has been known to compromise a damaged liver?
>  (HCV)
>  >
>  > 4) What quantity should be taken for a chronic condition? (killing a
>  virus)
>  >
>  > Thank you for your time
>  >
>  > Andy
>  >
>
>
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