To reply to your request, Steve, for developing visual standards for testing
size or strength....  you've just asked the impossible.

The only way to determine size is to visually measure the particles (or
chunks) of silver in calibrated visualizing equipment such as a Transmission
Electron Microscope.

And the only accurate means for establishing concentration (or strength) of
silver in a liquid medium is either Atomic Absbsorbtion Spectrophotometry or
Inductively Coupled Plasma analysis (the latter also quantifying the
presence of other elements if that is needed).

As far as process, many posts from other listers are as good a guide as you
will get.  But a diminished T.E. is clearly the most desirable attribute.
(You will then have smaller sized particles in your soup).

Stephen


----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Geigle <sgei...@home.com>
To: SILVER-LIST <silver-list@eskimo.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: CS>TDS1 & PWT


> Thanks for your wonderfully helpful posts, Bob.  I wade through all the
> off-topic posts looking for your post and others who are doing some hard
> research on this topic.
>
> By the way can you and/or other experts  develop some sort of standard for
> visually determining the size of colloids or strength of solution?  I know
> there are quite a few variables.  I stick with clear solution registering
a
> strong TE.  Make sense?
>
> I'm still wondering about using plastic.  Sure, the silver will move
around
> in the DW for years potentially, but won't they lose their effectiveness
if
> they gain electrons?  Can plastic gain/loose electrons (be affected by
> static electricity)?  Isn't glass a better insulator preventing capactive
or
> actual transfer of electrons from outside to silver ions?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Steve Geigle
> sgei...@home.com
>
> > Hi Ya'all,
> >
> > Just a note on reviewing one of my many development samples of CS, made
> > on 8/12/99 which had a ppm = 41, and was colorless.
> >
> > The following tabulation I believe will lay at rest the idea that an
> > electrical meter can measure ppm !!
> >
> > 8/29/99;   41 pp;      47 uS
> > 9/14/99;   52 ppm;  N.A.
> > 11/26;   ppm N.A.;   85 uS
> > 4/5/00;     38 ppm;    98 uS
> >
> > This material is stored in a clear 1/2 liter coke bottle on a table top
> > subject to the fluorescent lights of my lab. It is still clear, but it
> > has developed a very slight tinge of gold and the T.E. is medium in
> > brightness and width.
> >
> > "Ole Bob"
> >
> >
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