Thanx M.
James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com

-----Original Message-----
From:   Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com]
Sent:   Thursday, April 06, 2000 1:44 PM
To:     silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:        Re: CS>TDS1 & PWT

Generally it should increase the conductance.  This should have no direct 
effect on the sol.
Also it can reduce the ph, especially with CO2.  That can lead to precipitation 
if it goes too
low.

Marshall

"James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote:

> Hi Marshall,
>
> I once got the permeability figures from a resin site, but did not know how 
> to apply them.
>
> What do you think the effect of N and O and CO2 will have on the sol?
>
> James Osbourne Holmes
> a...@trail.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com]
> Sent:   Thursday, April 06, 2000 9:02 AM
> To:     silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject:        Re: CS>TDS1 & PWT
>
> HDPE is permiable to gases in the air, including CO2.  That is the only
> "problem" I know about it.  I posted the actual numbers here earlier, but seem
> to be unable to find them again right now.
>
> Marshall
>
> "James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote:
>
> > Hi Steve and all,
> >
> > High Density Poly Ethylene; HDPE is said to put nothing in the water.  I
> > wrote Nalgene about their resin's surface charge characteristics and they
> > said they do not know and refereed me to a analytical chem text.
> >
> > Because it puts nothing in the water does not necessarily mean that it does
> > not take from or affect what is in the water.
> >
> > Glass is soluble in distilled water.  I don't remember the details, but
> > probably have some info on that in my files/piles.
> >
> > Nalgene says that their HDPE is "Excellent" for the storage of DW at both
> > 20C and 50C.
> >
> > James Osbourne Holmes
> > a...@trail.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:   Steve Geigle [SMTP:sgei...@home.com]
> > Sent:   Thursday, April 06, 2000 8:21 AM
> > To:     SILVER-LIST
> > Subject:        Re: CS>TDS1 & PWT
> >
> > Thanks for your wonderfully helpful posts, Bob.  I wade through all the
> > off-topic posts looking for your post and others who are doing some hard
> > research on this topic.
> >
> > By the way can you and/or other experts  develop some sort of standard for
> > visually determining the size of colloids or strength of solution?  I know
> > there are quite a few variables.  I stick with clear solution registering a
> > strong TE.  Make sense?
> >
> > I'm still wondering about using plastic.  Sure, the silver will move around
> > in the DW for years potentially, but won't they lose their effectiveness if
> > they gain electrons?  Can plastic gain/loose electrons (be affected by
> > static electricity)?  Isn't glass a better insulator preventing capactive
> > or
> > actual transfer of electrons from outside to silver ions?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Steve Geigle
> > sgei...@home.com
> >
> > > Hi Ya'all,
> > >
> > > Just a note on reviewing one of my many development samples of CS, made
> > > on 8/12/99 which had a ppm = 41, and was colorless.
> > >
> > > The following tabulation I believe will lay at rest the idea that an
> > > electrical meter can measure ppm !!
> > >
> > > 8/29/99;   41 pp;      47 uS
> > > 9/14/99;   52 ppm;  N.A.
> > > 11/26;   ppm N.A.;   85 uS
> > > 4/5/00;     38 ppm;    98 uS
> > >
> > > This material is stored in a clear 1/2 liter coke bottle on a table top
> > > subject to the fluorescent lights of my lab. It is still clear, but it
> > > has developed a very slight tinge of gold and the T.E. is medium in
> > > brightness and width.
> > >
> > > "Ole Bob"
> > >
> > >
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