Hi Marshall,

I once got the permeability figures from a resin site, but did not know how to 
apply them. 

What do you think the effect of N and O and CO2 will have on the sol?

James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com


-----Original Message-----
From:   Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com]
Sent:   Thursday, April 06, 2000 9:02 AM
To:     silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:        Re: CS>TDS1 & PWT

HDPE is permiable to gases in the air, including CO2.  That is the only
"problem" I know about it.  I posted the actual numbers here earlier, but seem
to be unable to find them again right now.

Marshall



"James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote:

> Hi Steve and all,
>
> High Density Poly Ethylene; HDPE is said to put nothing in the water.  I
> wrote Nalgene about their resin's surface charge characteristics and they
> said they do not know and refereed me to a analytical chem text.
>
> Because it puts nothing in the water does not necessarily mean that it does
> not take from or affect what is in the water.
>
> Glass is soluble in distilled water.  I don't remember the details, but
> probably have some info on that in my files/piles.
>
> Nalgene says that their HDPE is "Excellent" for the storage of DW at both
> 20C and 50C.
>
> James Osbourne Holmes
> a...@trail.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Steve Geigle [SMTP:sgei...@home.com]
> Sent:   Thursday, April 06, 2000 8:21 AM
> To:     SILVER-LIST
> Subject:        Re: CS>TDS1 & PWT
>
> Thanks for your wonderfully helpful posts, Bob.  I wade through all the
> off-topic posts looking for your post and others who are doing some hard
> research on this topic.
>
> By the way can you and/or other experts  develop some sort of standard for
> visually determining the size of colloids or strength of solution?  I know
> there are quite a few variables.  I stick with clear solution registering a
> strong TE.  Make sense?
>
> I'm still wondering about using plastic.  Sure, the silver will move around
> in the DW for years potentially, but won't they lose their effectiveness if
> they gain electrons?  Can plastic gain/loose electrons (be affected by
> static electricity)?  Isn't glass a better insulator preventing capactive
> or
> actual transfer of electrons from outside to silver ions?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Steve Geigle
> sgei...@home.com
>
> > Hi Ya'all,
> >
> > Just a note on reviewing one of my many development samples of CS, made
> > on 8/12/99 which had a ppm = 41, and was colorless.
> >
> > The following tabulation I believe will lay at rest the idea that an
> > electrical meter can measure ppm !!
> >
> > 8/29/99;   41 pp;      47 uS
> > 9/14/99;   52 ppm;  N.A.
> > 11/26;   ppm N.A.;   85 uS
> > 4/5/00;     38 ppm;    98 uS
> >
> > This material is stored in a clear 1/2 liter coke bottle on a table top
> > subject to the fluorescent lights of my lab. It is still clear, but it
> > has developed a very slight tinge of gold and the T.E. is medium in
> > brightness and width.
> >
> > "Ole Bob"
> >
> >
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